Jodi,

Here is yet another clear Scripture (Luke 20:41-44):

“41 And he (Christ) said unto them,
How (Jodi and others) say they that Christ is David’s son?

42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

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Matthew directly links Jesus to Joseph genetically, this shouldn’t even be up for debate it’s directly given in the text.

Jodi,

The virgin birth discounts your idea, and so does this:

“for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.” (Jer 22:30)

But it goes to show, once a person has the…[Read more]

Gene,

Begotten means born

And Adam means Man

You are just playing word games to hold onto false doctrine.

Jesus is never called the second Adam in scripture. He is called the last Adam and the Second Man. Very important and significant distinctions.

“And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.” 1Co 15:45

“The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heave…

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Hi Jodi,

Are you saying God lied when he said this:

“for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.” (Jer 22:30 )

Edj, “free will” does not even exist

Hi Gene,

“I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel,
and of his priests and Levites, in my realm,
which are minded of their own freewill
to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.” (Ezra 7:13)

You don’t exist

Hi Ed J, (Imported from Page 1)

The ORIGIN of Jesus comes from the seed of Joseph of which occurred through the power of the Holy Spirit fulfilling prophecy.

Jodi, (Imported from linked thread: see page 17)

You want me to prove to you Joseph is not Jesus biological father?

ME: I am interested in seeing what your proof is.

Hi Jodi,

I’m glad…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Since this thread is titled Born and begotten, I thought this would be the appropriate place to discuss Jesus’s conception.

The ORIGIN of Jesus comes from the seed of Joseph of which occurred through the power of the Holy Spirit fulfilling prophecy.

Jodi,

You want me to prove to you Joseph is not Jesus biological father?

ME: I a…

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Hi Ed J,

Since this thread is titled Born and begotten, I thought this would be the appropriate place to discuss Jesus’s conception.

YOU:

Jodi,

You want me to prove to you Joseph is not Jesus biological father?

ME: I am interested in seeing what your proof is.

Hi Jodi,

I got a better idea. Since you now appear to be willing (because of “…[Read more]

Asking questions is the way to learn Carmel

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and effectual and more piercing than any two edged sword; and reaching unto the division of the soul and the spirit, of the joints also and the marrow: and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
CAN ANY OF YOU, Jodi, Edj, and Gene Explain HOW ON EARTH

THE WORD IS LIVING AND EFFECTUAL…

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Hi Ed J,

Below is the passage that folks connect to John 1:1 and equate Jesus to be “the Word”.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

This is why Gene spoke to LU about how Jesus has been given many names/titles, making the point that as he is called the Lamb of God, that doe…

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(1)It also seem Edj, is also comming around, he has come to see that Jesus himself is “not the word of God, “himself” but an anointed man who gave us the “words” given him “by” God, his father and our father, his God and our God.
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(2)He has taken the “big step”, of breaking the chain of false teachings imposed on nearly all Christanity today…

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LU…….,
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Jesus is called the word of God , not because he is the words of God himself, but because God the Father gives him the words to tell us, or don’t you truly believe what he said, “the words I am telling you are not “my” words, but the words of him that sent me”.
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Peace and love to you all and yours. ……….gene

Gene,

No-where is is Jesus…[Read more]

Congratulations Jodi, this is quite a post!

Good Morning Pilgrim,

Pilgrim, our ONE TRUE HOLY GOD the Father who is ABOVE ALL, HIS OWN Spirit is THE Holy Spirit.

As said, the Spirit of our God the Father is righteous and is our SOURCE to gain our own righteousness, the Spirit of our Father is all knowing having infinite wisdom and is our SOURCE…

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Good Morning Pilgrim,

Pilgrim, our ONE TRUE HOLY GOD the Father who is ABOVE ALL, HIS OWN Spirit is THE Holy Spirit.

Hi Jodi,

It is nice when we agree!

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God bless
Ed J

Not until Christ returns are we begotten by God and changed…

Hi Jodi,

Sorry you feel that you are not begotten of God. Too bad really that you don’t understand God’s message of redemption

“We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
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Hi Edj,
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I am a bit disappointed with your response. If you had read my post correctly you would have noticed I never said the word “He” was in John 1:1, But it was in chapter 1. LightenUp is correct.
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In regard to God being Spirit, Jesus said “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth.” (John 4…

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the WORD which was WITH God and IS God, who was in the beginning, the one by whom all things were made (verses 3,10), and has a strong link with Elohim in Genesis 1 who in the beginning created the heavens and the earth.

……………….“The Word” is God’s HolySpirit!

“And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.” (Gen 1:2)

I don’t need to change the words of scripture
Chapter 1 is all about introducing us to the WORD, who He was and is

Hi Pilgrim,

You are indeed changing the words of Scripture – there is no “HE” mentioned in John 1:1.

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God bless
Ed J