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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 9 months ago

    No Nick,

    Jesus was no ordinary man – he was born “the Son of God”

    “Dost thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
    And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
    And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.” (John 9:35-38)

    Should…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 9 months ago

    “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God,
    that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” (John 6:29)

    Hi Nick,

    Not sent from Jordan to Jerusalem; “the spirit of Christ” was sent from Heaven.

    “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)
    “when he bringeth in the fir…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 9 months ago

    “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God,
    that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” (John 6:29)

    Hi Nick,

    Sent from Heaven – not sent from Jordan to Jerusalem

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi t8,

    (1) You say Jesus was not an ordinary man but one from heaven.

    (2) What hope do ordinary men like you and I have of following him then?

    No Nick,

    1) That is what “the Bible” says…
    “And no man hath ascended up to heaven,
    but he that came down from heaven,
    even the Son of man which is in heaven.” (John 3:13)

    2) “Jesus answered and…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can “any of them”(=of all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother – “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    Nor can you answer “Yes” because then you are saying Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdire…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can “any of them”(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother – “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    Nor can you answer “Yes” because then you are saying Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdirect by thro…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can “any of them”(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother – “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdire…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can “any of them”(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother – “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying this Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdire…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can “any of them”(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying this Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdire…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can ANY OF THEM(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying this Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdire…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can any of them(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” or “No”?

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying this Scripture is wrong.

    So in order to maintain false belief your only response
    can be to misdire…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can any of them(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” or “No”?

    “when I asked of them, could answer a word. Behold, they are all vanity;
    their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.”

    (Isaiah 41:28-29)

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is w…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    “when I asked of them, could answer a word. Behold, they are all vanity;
    their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.”

    (Isaiah 41:28-29)

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying this Scripture is wro…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Ed J

    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    “when I asked of them, could answer a word. Behold, they are all vanity;
    their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.”

    (Isaiah 41:28-29)

    Hi Kerwin,

    You cannot answer “No” because then you are agreeing with me that your belief is wrong.
    And you cannot answer “Yes” because then you are saying this Scripture is wro…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Kerwin,

    Can any of them(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” or “No”?

    “Yes” or “No”?

    But you will not answer, will you?

    “when I asked of them, could answer a word. Behold, they are all vanity;
    their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.”

    (Isaiah 41:28-29)

  • Profile picture of Ed J

    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Can any of them(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” or “No”?

    “Yes” or “No”?

    But you will not answer, will you?

    Hi Kerwin,

    “when I asked of them, could answer a word. Behold, they are all vanity;
    their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.”

    (Isaiah 41:28-29)

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Ed,

    It is not a red herring.

    The “them” in “None of them” is anyone of the group of those are those that trust in their wealth and boasts in the multitude of their riches. Its in verse Psalms 49:6.

    No Kerwin,

    The “THEM” is all the inhabitants of the world

    “Hear this, all ye people; give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world” (Psalms…

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    “Hear this, all ye people; give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world” (Psalms 49:1)
    “None of them can by any means redeem his brother” (Psalms 49:7)

    Hi Kerwin,

    SEE THE CONTEXT? …”all ye inhabitants of the world”
    “None of them can by any means redeem his brother”

    Can any of them(=all the inhabitants of the world) redeem his brother; “Yes” o…[Read more]

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Are you purposely implying Jesus is a sinner?

    Hi Kerwin,

    Don’t attempt to dodge my question by throwing up a red herring
    Now please address my question…

    Ed,

    Jesus Christ is a human and so he has a human spirit.

    Hi Kerwin,

    “None of them can by any means redeem his brother” (Psalms 49:7)

    …but you are saying yes he can, no? ???

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    Ed J replied to the topic in the forum Ed J 10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Nick,

    So God’s spirit is a Father/Son combo to be called a “WE”? ???

    If so, then why did Jesus say this…

    “Hear, O Israel; The LORD our God is one LORD” (Mark 12:29)

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