Quote (Not3in1 @ June 20 2008,08:50)Quote (dirtyknections @ June 20 2008,07:32)I think this scriptures answers the questions in this threadYes, the value of Jesus' sacrifice was the ultimate salvation of our souls, but the questions currently being asked is what was the sacrifice?  What did Jesus sacrifice?  You say, “His past glory.”  OK, but is…[Read more]

The last paragraph sums up the commentary on this verse

Nick here is a commentarie on 2 Peter 2:4Verse 4. For if God spared not the angels] The angels were originally placed in a state of probation; some having fallen and some having stood proves this. How long that probation was to last to them, and what was the particular test of their fidelity, we know not; nor indeed do we know what was their sin;…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 20 2008,06:33)So they can move out and act as demons?“tartarus”…is not a place…it is a “state of being”…so yes…as was illustrated by Satans answer to God in Job about where he came from…”from wondering about and moving to and fro upon the earth”…Again…notice the etymology of the word demondemon 1387, from L.…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 20 2008,06:46)I was believing the Trinity and  still I feel it is better than any Arian view of making Jesus a god or demi-god or an angel etc. Here is the interpretationRev 1:11 “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show his servants what must happen soon. He made it known by sending his angel to his…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 20 2008,07:19)DK….It's not about me it's about truth,Stop and think a monent if You say something i agree with i would say amen brother, and i as well as Adam and others have said this to each other all the time, the Spirit does have a ring to it and to me some seem to have it more than others. I did not teach Adam…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2008,07:11)Hi Dk, perhaps you could answer in an appropriate thread?agreed

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 20 2008,06:46)Quote (dirtyknections @ June 20 2008,06:12)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 20 2008,04:57)Quote (dirtyknections @ June 20 2008,03:06)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 19 2008,17:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2008,14:42)Hi not3, Your own death will be a temporary inconvenience too? You will not be tortured or crucified…[Read more]

Lemme state I am by no means saying that I am right…I just have a certain understanding as of now…but I WILL change when moved to by the Holy Spirit…I come from a JW background…and my beliefs NOW are almost 180 from what they were…so please no that when I say I disagree…I am not saying, “i'm right and you are wrong”…I am merely…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ June 20 2008,05:01)No DKIt is the same HOPE. ONE HOPE!There is no going to Heaven for anyone, whether remnants or portions; whether 144000 or otherwise.All the saints shall inherit the Kingdom of GOD; all will be co-heirs with Jesus who will visibly & literally rule from the literal city of Jerusalem in a literal Kingdom upon…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2008,14:10)Hi GM,Since scripture makes plain that the Spirit is one it is hard to consider that one Spirit being divided in terms of being 7 eyes. Why then does Gen 1 not show 7 Spirits?simply put…symbolism

Quote (gollamudi @ June 20 2008,05:23)Satan is not bound yet, Rev 12 is still future. IMOI agree…but they are in “tartarus”

GM…I'm not understanding your last question? Clarify please

Quote (gollamudi @ June 20 2008,05:15)Hi DK,Do you mean Jesus was not tempted of sin,bad or evil like us? What do you mean by God's plans for sending Jesus His son not to be tempted of sin?Hey GM…Of course Jesus could be tempted..he was Human…albeit a perfect human…but human…i.e. the temptation of Christ by the Devil…Jesus tired, he…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 20 2008,04:57)Quote (dirtyknections @ June 20 2008,03:06)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 19 2008,17:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2008,14:42)Hi not3, Your own death will be a temporary inconvenience too? You will not be tortured or crucified though.Perhaps.But there are those who have been tortured…..There are two points of…[Read more]

Here you go just for reference:niv- 7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.amplified- 7I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and I create evil (calamity); I am the Lord, Who does all these things.youngs- 7Forming light, and preparing darkness,…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 20 2008,04:22)Hi Adam greetings,But our permanent abode is new Jerusalem which will come down from God in heaven.I agree GM…but lemme ask..where do you think Moses and Abraham's and those “faithful ones of old” are destined to be?To me its seems all who are “baptized by spirit” into the new covenant have a heavenly hope…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 20 2008,03:59)That is not the topic my brother please don't divert it.agreed

isaiah 45:5-7…lemme explain this scripture to you'Evil,' as used here, refers to evil of a physical nature (storms), not moral evil. Contextually, this verse is dealing with natural disasters, and human comfort issues. It is not speaking of moral evil; rather, it is dealing with calamity, distress, etc. This is consistent with other…[Read more]

have you ever read other renderings of this scripture also?