Quote (Jodi @ Aug. 28 2008,03:19)Quote (dirtyknections @ Aug. 27 2008,07:58)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2008,02:39)Tiffany……..It does not say in what (WAY) he was before Abraham does it, you and T8 are (ASSUMING) Jesus meant He existed as an actual being, but thats not what it says, in fact Jesus was foreordained from the foundations of the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2008,02:39)Tiffany……..It does not say in what (WAY) he was before Abraham does it, you and T8 are (ASSUMING) Jesus meant He existed as an actual being, but thats not what it says, in fact Jesus was foreordained from the foundations of the world, but was (MANIFESTED) in our time Just as Peter said. God said Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2008,02:39) If you can prove His existence then what was His name and show us any of His activity prior to coming to earth then.Colossians 1:15-19… 15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Aug. 28 2008,00:18)Quote (TimothyVI @ Aug. 27 2008,23:05)” before Abraham was I am” says nothing clearly to me except that the past or present tensewas not stated clearly enough for us to even understand what was meant.The Pharisees were ready to stone Jesus because he answered them in a riddle.TimWait a minute, you mean to tell…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 19 2008,01:38)T8………this whole thing about John 1:1 is what trinitarians us to do two things , one to try to show Jesus' preexistence and His Identity as the God of creation. Both preexistences and trinitarians hinge the belief system on this simple verse and the word Jesus is not even in it. It's all just smoke…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 11 2008,07:37)Quote The scripture you quoted about choosing for yourself who yo will serve was talking to carnal minded people who did not chose rightSo, Gene, they had a choice then?  If they did not chose right, they must have had a choice.  Of course they did.  It would have been silly for God to put a choice before them, if…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2008,01:25)Gene,So 2 Peter 1:1 refers to another Jesus Christ?LUAgain…this verse does not prove the trinity…The dispute in this verse is usually over whether Sharp's “article+substantive-kai-substantive” rule should apply or not.First of all, if you check other translations you will notice that this verse is rendered…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 13 2008,14:00)Quote (dirtyknections @ Aug. 13 2008,08:33)Quote (Shania @ Aug. 12 2008,16:58){for what it's worth}There may be errors in the Bible- here and there.  They, however, do not effect the whole message or “tenor” of scripture.  Use scripture to interpret scripture.  The clear passages interpret unclear ones.If you ru…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2008,02:59)Ken……to say there is no errors in out present text is not true, if you have a center margian in your bible ust look at all the errors and mistranslations shown there, do these errors tweak the text, i believe they do in places. A man Well Known Scholar Maned MILLS found over 30,000 grammatical error in…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Aug. 13 2008,21:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 13 2008,11:34)Hi Tim4, NASB says 22 in 2Chr22.2You are right Nick.My trusty KJV and NKJV both say he was 42 years old.Timtheres your problem…you are using by far the worst translation of the bible No error in those scriptures by the way…just translater misjudgement on the…[Read more]

Quote (Shania @ Aug. 12 2008,16:58){for what it's worth}There may be errors in the Bible- here and there.  They, however, do not effect the whole message or “tenor” of scripture.  Use scripture to interpret scripture.  The clear passages interpret unclear ones.If you run across something in scripture that goes against your doctrine, search it ou…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ July 22 2008,04:37)Have a safe trip Gene. May God watch over you and your family.You want to adopt me for a week? TimYou took the words out of my mouth Brother Timothy

144,000= symbolic for the servants of GOD, followers of CHRIST, aka the SAINTS or Anointed

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2008,06:54)Hi DK,What does scripture say?Hebrews 9:27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,  All men except those alive at the return of Jesus suffer the first death because the flesh is condemned.Romans 8:3For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God…[Read more]

Brother Gene…I enjoy all your posts..but you are contradicting yourself right now

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2008,06:47)Hi GB, Indeed despite” being DRAGGED and compelled to obey the will of God”, as you say, sin living in Paul's flesh made it impossible to always obey the way of righteousness while he lived in that flesh tent. So if Paul was so frustrated and helpless why do you teach that it is so easy and impossible to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2008,06:41)Quote (dirtyknections @ July 21 2008,01:55)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2008,15:58)Hi DK, A fine thought but our choices seem to end at death.Those in the second resurrection seem to awake to judgement.Valid thoughts…but i disagreeHi DK,So where do you see written in scripture that men have a second chance…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 21 2008,04:57)DK…..no because if a person dies following His flesh, he will come up in the resurrection and and be judged , saying a person will die does not mean eternal death, it means die in your sins, which 90% of all humanity has, Do you think A loving God is going to destory 90% of his creation?Jesus did not…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 21 2008,04:41)Nick…….judgement is the best thing that could happen to us. When God gives judgement to people they change, “for judgement shall be (GIVEN) to the Saint's of the MOST HIGH”> The problem  is, many look at judgement as condemnation and damnation when in fact it is not.It whats need to deliver a person…[Read more]

Matthew 25:32…32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.