Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 19 2008,10:41)Hi JOdi, You said”The adversary in Job and in Zacharia were angels of God, and thus being they were granted the powers of the Holy Spirit! ”  Do expound from scripture this new ideayes please do

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 18 2008,13:36)DK…..The word adversary simple implies and adversarial spirit or intellect , In fact an adversary at times can be a helper when used by God, for the good of a person as obviously it was used in the case of Job. At the end of the Book of Job, it says GOD had brought all these things on Job not some other…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 18 2008,13:40)GB, So there are everlasting “free intellects” that are beings and can come and go from people?So Jesus spoke with these FREE INTELLECTS and they spoke back to him, and he cast them out?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 18 2008,13:36)DK…..The word adversary simple implies and adversarial spirit or intellect , In fact an adversary at times can be a helper when used by God, for the good of a person as obviously it was used in the case of Job. At the end of the Book of Job, it says GOD had brought all these things on Job not some other…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 18 2008,12:39)DK…..an adversarial spirit can be misunderstood as a person or being as pagans have did for centuries, they attach a being to what is really a attribute or Spiritual intellect.  If you can try to realize all good and all evil has always existing , good spiritual intellect , and evil spiritual intellect.…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 18 2008,07:29)Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 17 2008,05:18)Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 17 2008,16:21)Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 16 2008,19:24)  Gene..cmon..you mean to tell these verses describe our “carnal minds” talking 6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 17 2008,16:21)Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 16 2008,19:24)  Gene..cmon..you mean to tell these verses describe our “carnal minds” talking 6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”      Satan answered the LORD, “From roa…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 17 2008,20:28)Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 08 2008,11:20)Hi David, Satan means adversary and there is not one single scripture that says that the adversary is an evil supernatural being.Satan is said to be the man who has in mind the things of men. Revelations 12 shows the old serpent and Satan to be one and the same. Therefore we can…[Read more]

Gene/ Jodi..what about this verses…Jude 1:9But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”Or theseRevelation 2:24Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not…[Read more]

Gene..cmon..you mean to tell these verses describe our “carnal minds” talking 6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it.” 8 Then the LORD said…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2008,14:11)Nick….Jesus know Mans state was a fallen state, Man fell from His heavenly state God has in mind for him. Man commended or fell to a adversarial state. You should already have known that. You are the one going against the masters teaching not me, but i realize you simply do not understand . IMOOk..I…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2008,13:40)Dk…..”resist the devil and he shall flee from you”, it appears the devil is in everybody, and he is, in our Carnal Natures as he was in the Pharisees “for you do the deeds of your father the devil. The devil is not some separate person or being , the devil is carnal man. When you are submitting yourself…[Read more]

I thought this was a good synopsis…( I disagree with a couple of the interpretations..but it still is a good read)http://answersnow.homestead.com/files/devlreal.htmThe devil has a personality and possesses a heavenly body. He does not have an earthly body like ours, but an angelic body, since he is a created being, an angel. However, he…[Read more]

John 12:31 “Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out.” John 14:30 “I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no power over me.” John 16:8, 11 “And when he comes, he will prove the world wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment . . . about judgment because the…[Read more]

Romans 8:21that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.Psalm 119:45I will walk about in freedom, for I have sought out your precepts.1 Corinthians 8:9Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak.1…[Read more]

Can you have “freedom” and not have “free will”?

Quote (epistemaniac @ Sep. 15 2008,11:32)the point of the lunk was not monergism, though that certainty lies at back of the entire discussion of election….the point I was emphasizing was that there seems to be a dichotomy between election viewed s individual or corporate as if the 2 are antithetical or mutually exclusive of one another, they are…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Sep. 15 2008,13:25)the problem is the definition of “christiandom”… since the word is so nebulous it can come to mean anything you want it to mean…..  the same with the phrase “organized religion”….  after all, small groups are a form of organized religion just as much a mainline denominations… its all a matter of p…[Read more]

This scripture stays with me constantly.. Hebrews 13:11-14…. 11The high priest carries the blood of animals into the Most Holy Place as a sin offering, but the bodies are burned outside the camp. 12And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. 13Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 11 2008,16:14)GB, It is you who says this and that is not enough for those who love bible truth. basically