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If Jesus was a Jew, what house would you place him?

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Unfortunately the Jesus fails on being a member of the tribe of Judah; biologically he isn’t connected to the line of David because the spirit is the one who fathered him (Luke 1:26-35, Matt 1:18). It is of the seed of David the Messiah is to be born of (2 Sam 7:12-17, I Chron 11-14). Lineage is associated with the father and not t…

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 1 Chronicles 22:9-10

9‘Behold, a son will be born to you, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side; for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quiet to Israel in his days. 10‘He shall build a house for My name, and he shall be My son and I will be his father; and I will…

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In Jewish tradition, naming a child was closely tied to the father’s legal role, and biblical examples show that the act of naming was considered a paternal responsibility that established lineage and identity. Joseph named Jesus. Jesus is Joseph’s legal son and therefore Solomon’s lineage in the legal sense. Mary brings the b…[Read more]

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If, as you claim, Jesus is a demi-god, half god/half human then, according to your idea, the human side of him would be biologically related to David. Therefore Jesus is a biological descendant of David’s own body even if Jesus was considered a demi-god which I do not agree with. And, being a descendant of David’s own body, he would…[Read more]

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To say that Mary’s Son isn’t a biological descendant of David because He didn’t have a biological father isn’t reasonable. The child was to be the seed of the woman and from a virgin.

LU

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Hi, I’ve been busy and will be busy for a couple of weeks for the holidays. I just have time for a couple of comments. I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:

Isa 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to…[Read more]

@DesireTruth,

Lost last two posts are screen shots that I took of AI answers to my questions. I am having trouble posting here, an error message keeps popping up and I have to do a work around and send through my email and them post a picture here via my phone. Keep in mind that the last post of mine does not reflect the NSB1995 version and I…[Read more]

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Regarding Jesus’ qualifications for the eternal throne:

Jewish Messianic Criteria
Must be a descendant of David through Solomon (based on 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 22).
Must be biologically descended from David, not just legally adopted.

Christian Resolution
Matthew’s genealogy affirms Jesus’ legal right to David’s throne throu…

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Messianic Jews can be ethnically Jewish. Jews who have accepted the complex unity of the Godhead which includes Jesus.

Regarding Genesis 1:26 Read this about who God is talking to:

Messianic Jews typically interpret Genesis 1:26 (“Let us make man in our image”) as a reference to the plurality within God’s nature—often understood a…

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You never know when your own critical thought is going to bite you in the backside, do ya?

You said:

“When are people going to verify what they have been told is truth and stop smashing the “I Believe Button”?”

It seems that what appears to be in present tense, or past tense, can have special nuances. See here:

Isaiah 9:6 is a fas…[Read more]

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Messianic Jews generally recognize YHWH (the Tetragrammaton) as the name of the God of Israel, whom they worship as the one true God. They affirm His unity while also embracing the divinity of Yeshua (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit within a framework that parallels the Christian understanding of the Godhead.

Here’s how this plays out i…

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Messianic Jews generally recognize YHWH (the Tetragrammaton) as the name of the God of Israel, whom they worship as the one true God. They affirm His unity while also embracing the divinity of Yeshua (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit within a framework that parallels the Christian understanding of the Godhead.

Here’s how this plays out i…[Read more]

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Maybe this can help, the translation of the Hebrew into Aramaic before Jesus incarnation shows the substituting of the name YHWH or the pronoun for YHWH, or the word “God”, with “Memra”.

Key Substitutions of Memra for YHWH in Targum Onkelos
Genesis 28:21

Hebrew: “YHWH shall be my God.”
Targum Onkelos: “The Memra of YHWH shall…

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Targum is what I meant. Read this to see that the Targum’s use of “memra” was the Son of God according to Justin Martyr.

Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, Chapter 61
(Roberts-Donaldson Translation – Full Text with Memra Highlighted)

Below is the complete text of Chapter 61 from Justin Martyr’s Dialogue with Trypho (c. 150–160 C…

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At least you can’t say that the belief of two powers in Heaven held by enough people as a legitimate interpretive framework drawn from biblical texts as early as 560 BCE is a modern interpretation.

Have you heard of the Targums?

LU

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Regarding the “two powers in Heaven” it is easier for me to just copy and paste the information from GROK. It saves me quite a lot of time trying to explain. Here it is word for word:

Overview of “Two Powers in Heaven” in Early Judaism
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I’m happy to tell you about the Two Powers of God, actually referred to as the “Two Powers of Heaven”.

The concept of “two powers in heaven” (often described as binitarianism in modern scholarship) refers to an early Jewish theological framework that posited two divine figures or manifestations sharing authority in the heavenly…[Read more]

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We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern. Make it follow this form: the name of a unity of persons = the title or category of each member in the unity.

Israel is the name of a unity, the House of Jacob. Israel=Jacob…[Read more]