DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Gene,
You: “But what you don’t you see, is that is exactly what Jesus did also, he turns us to God the Father in every thing he said and did. His whole life was for that very purpose.”
Me: Unfortunately, it’s not what I don’t see; it’s was I do see. If Jesus was an “example” for us and how we are to go to God; why does Jesus say the only way to…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
Is my understanding of Mark 4:10-12 incorrect? If so, please explain.
Is my understanding of John 18:20 incorrect? If so, please explain.
Is my understanding of Isa 7:14 incorrect? If so, please explain.
Is my understanding of Ps 16:10 incorrect? If so, please explain.
Is my understanding of Luke 24:46-47 incorrect? If so, please…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Gene,
I’m “cherry picking” nothing, I am reading the words on a page. Everywhere I look I am finding something that pushes me further from this man called Jesus and directly to God. Maybe I should find my “I believe button” and stop verifying what I have been taught.
Read Mark 4:10-12, After Jesus tells the crowd a parable he tells the disci…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
Of course if the religious leaders had killed Jesus is irrelevant to you; however, are you saying the “word of God” is irrelevant or it doesn’t fit your truth. Fact is the Jews were allowed to punish people under their laws and customs; but, to put someone to death, that had to go through the Roman governor. So if the leaders would hav…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
Isa 42:8 “I am Yahweh; that is my name, and I do not give my glory to another…” Hmmmmm!
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
You say I was brought up in a church full of lies; which “denomination”, which “church”, which “faith” has it correct? Where exactly should I go to be taught? If you say the spirit leads and teaches, we have a problem because everyone believes something different and all claiming it’s of the “spirit.”
In John 2:22 the disciples believe…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Gene,
You: “how was “Israel” “EVER”. a suffering servant of God,”
Me: I have explained this to you a few times and posted links back to where I explained it. I have asked you who is speaking where in Is 52:13-53:12 and have offered my understanding of it. Yet, you keep going back to making Israel claiming to be the “suffering” servant and tha…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
I said, “So we’re back to Jesus being God…false teaching!!”
You respond, “Me: No, Jesus in the beginning was with (the God) AND was God.”
Am I not understanding something here?!?!?
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
You: “DT, Why did they take up stones to stone him?”
Me: Please explain John 18:31 where the religious leaders say it wasn’t lawful for them to put anyone to death under Roman law. The leaders were going to stone Jesus in one place and in another they remember they can’t?!?! Something doesn’t make sense.
Then you quote the exchange…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Gene,
You: “Jesus simply was showing us how to stay focused on God, exactly as he did.”
Me: Unfortunately this isn’t what Christianity is about and is why the old side differs from the new side. The old side says God loves his creation and if you go to HIM, admit your sin, turn from your sin, God will remember it no more. The new side says…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
So we’re back to Jesus being God…false teaching!!
Did Jesus ever claim to be God, NOPE; what became the Catholics faith codified that in stone at the Counsel of Nicea and then almost 50 years later the “spirit” was added to the mix to create the “trinity” doctrine. History is your friend.
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Danny,
How exactly can I be disagreeing with God when HE says HE is the savior??! Again, when did our unchanging God change and pass “saviorship” to the “son”? Have you read Jonah?
I noticed you avoided the question concerning the Messiah; is the Jewish Messiah different than the Christian Messiah or are they the same? Make sure you look it up…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Danny,
That means there’s a contradiction between the OT and NT; that means our unchanging God, changed; God calls himself savior in the OT, yet is unable to save in the NT. Have to wonder…
I’ll ask again, what is the difference between the Jewish Messiah and the Christian Messiah or are they the same? Before you blurt out your rehearsed…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
@Gene,
I could go on explaining myself until I am blue in the face; but, until you stop and listen, you will never hear. I could spend the next 20 minutes writing words; but, until you stop and look, you will never see. When you start verifying what you have been told is truth, then you will understand where I currently am.
You say it’s sad I h…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
What you posted is “messianic Judaism”, a branch of “christianity” where Jews can keep their identity and customs, but follow the “rules” of the christian system. This organization, One for Israel, makes the claim Isa 53 is “the forbidden chapter”, which is a lie. This chapter isn’t “forbidden”, you can find studies done by Jewish teache…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 7 months ago
“Be Berean”; that is precious, gave me a good chuckle when I read it.
You ridicule Berean for not verifying what he is told and ridicule me for verifying what I’m told. Tell us what parts of scripture are we to verify and which are we to just blindly accept? Sounds like a contradiction to me. What’s humorous about that statement is you…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 8 months ago
“To reject Paul is to reject his Master Jesus Christ”; so Paul saves too?!!? Do you not see the Idolatry in that statement? If this is what you believe, you can keep it; I want nothing to do with it…utterly stunned!
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 8 months ago
Has nothing to do with control, it’s me seeking answers. Answers that you are either afraid to answer for fear of the repercussions it will have on your belief system or you have no answer too. You say there is nothing new under the sun; yet, I have apparently uncovered something “new” because no one, including yourself, can answer the…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 8 months ago
You realize you have addressed nothing in anything I’ve written; so what is your point in responding? Your religious responses do NOT answer my questions; either answer them and offer insight or remain silent. Your meaningless responses further solidifies what I am discovering and confirms that you don’t know why you believe what you b…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 8 months ago
@Jodi,
My persistence is a demand for truth, I am finding I have wasted 40 years following doctrines of man and not what God said. This isn’t the X-Files where “the truth is out there” as we argue over our interpretation of the bible; God told us HIS simple truth and we need to stop complicating what HE said.Jonah is a prime example; Jesus made…[Read more]
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