T8

My heritage is Irish but I am not from Ireland. Have visited but never had residency there.

Cheers.

Amen T8.

Hi Jodi and GeneBalthrop,

This will be my last post to you, but I will be praying for you both that the eyes of your understanding will be enlightened for truly you both have a blindness in the reading of scripture as did Israel in the time of the appearance of Jesus and in the time of preaching of the Apostles and still today for the most part.…[Read more]

Hi GeneBalthrop,

My post on “emptied himself” was to help you understand what Jesus, who was in the form of God, “emptied himself” of, seeing you seemed to be having difficulty understanding the text. Your post confirms the scripture that “he made himself of no reputation” He never sought his own exaltation but humbled himself as the text says, b…[Read more]

Thank you Carmel for your contribution. Amen to your post.

To Jodi,

Those who know and have experienced the truth of Titus 3, those “saved by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;” maintain the sinless humanity of Jesus Christ the Messiah, of the seed of a wo…[Read more]

Hi All,

I note the discussion around the scriptural phrase in Philippians 2:7 “he emptied himself” which other translations reads “made himself of no reputation” etc. This was a choice He made.

There is much that could be said but here is a snippet.

We clearly see in Jesus the character and nature of God as Love, Light and Life. But while o…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Thankyou for your recent posts. I can see where you are coming from but don’t agree with your view or interpretation of scripture.  Apparently you do see Jesus/Christ preexisted but only as a purpose or word in YHWH and then only as a coming man of Adam. You also see Jesus just as a man full of YHWH’s spirit.

Without a doubt Eloh…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Jesus said “I am the root and the offspring of David” (Revelation 22:16) (Isaiah 11:1). How could the person who is Jesus the man, born in time be the <b><u>root</u></b> from which David sprang if he did not preexist.

Jesus said “before Abraham was I am” (John 8:58). How could the person who is Jesus the man born in time be <b&gt…[Read more]

Just a couple short additions to my last post.

Jesus was not called the second Adam but the last Adam. He is called the second Man. This distinction is very important.

Jesus died the death we deserved but which he didn’t, so we could live the life we didn’t deserve and that only he has lived.

He bore mankind’s sins not his own, to pay the price…[Read more]

Just posting this from born, begotten as it relates to this thread also.

T8 has quoted many wonderful scriptures under the born, begotten thread concerning Christ.

Now we know that the “natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually d…[Read more]

T8 has quoted many wonderful scriptures.

Now we know that the “natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.“ and that  “it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the pruden…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

We need to go back to the beginning of creation.  God made man(kind – Adam & Eve) in his own image and likeness (Genesis 1:26) and gave him(them) dominion over all the earth and its creatures (Genesis 1:26,28) i.e. “made him a little lower than the angels; He crowned him with glory and honour, and set him over the works of thy hands”…[Read more]

Thankyou GeneBalthrop for your post.

Indeed both the Apostle Peter and the Apostle John show us that God the Father is the cause using ‘means’ to accomplish his purposes through the regeneration.

1Pe 1:3  “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy has begotten us again unto a lively hope by…[Read more]

I know this is an old thread but it comes up in current searches.

Begotten (begat, beget) refers to the father’s role and born to the mother’s role.

Isaiah 45:10 demonstrates this distinction:
Woe to him who says to his father, ‘What have you begotten?’ or to his mother, ‘What have you brought to birth?’

John 1:14 and 18 for example dem…[Read more]