John Bunyan on the Trinity

OF THE TRINITY AND A CHRISTIAN By John Bunyan

How a young, or shaken Christian should
demean himself under the weighty thoughts of
the doctrine of the Trinity, or plurality of
persons in the eternal godhead.
The reason why I say a young, or shaken
Christian; it is because some that are not young,
but of an ancient standing, may not…[Read more]

even Jesus, the Light of the World, couldn’t change the thinking of those set in their own false doctrines…sure I could keep answering your questions but for one, I don’t have the luxury of spending so much time in the discussion of Scripture, and secondly, especially with one who I think really just likes endless debate…and a debate I believe…[Read more]

This was just an interesting thought that came from looking at the first chapter of Genesis – (because John in his opening verse of his gospel directs our attention back to the very first verse of the Bible – “In the beginning God…” it is as if he writes again this verse, only, he inserts Jesus as the Word to reveal to us the Deity of Christ……[Read more]

“Jesus said to him, ‘Away from me, Satan! For it is written: Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.'” – Matthew 4:10
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We worship Jesus, the Son of God because He is GOD…
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I don’t know how you worship Jesus – but the way we worship the Lord is the same way we worship God..!!
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If I were to use your explanation and worship any other…[Read more]

You suggest that I’m ‘out of my depth’…and I think in a sense you are right…the degree of your spiritual blindness is no match for me – if you deny the clear revelation of Scripture I cannot help you…sadly no one can..!
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You said that you knew me in the past, and even shared with me about God long before I was saved… unfortunately I…[Read more]

I consider your teaching about the Trinity to be false for the simple reason that it is NOT inspired of the Spirit..your concepts do not come from God but from your own logic…those who teach MUST have the Holy Spirit..(“..for they know not the voice of strangers.” – John 10:5)
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All teaching in Scripture is inspired of God – but when man…[Read more]

good advice, and the very reason why those who attack the Trinity are so off track..they simply cannot accept what the Scripture itself testifies of..

so…because I trust the Scriptures you give me a condescending lecture about false teaching…??!!??!!
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Ha ha ha your advice is good – only misdirected..!!
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If you yourself would consider your own advice and the things you accuse me of..you might actually find yourself closer to the mark..!!

What you are doing is quoting the words of Scripture out of context… you are using these words about the Father being the only true God to try and deny the Trinity…
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and while it seems to work in your own mind, the sad reality is that those who acknowledge the Trinity already know and acknowledge that the Father and Son are obviously two…[Read more]

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches..
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Hmmm…I wonder who said that…?
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“For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.”
– Romans 8:14
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again, by trying to deny the Trinity you only end up confirming it’s truth – the voice of the Shepherd and the voice of the Spirit are ONE…[Read more]

You say that logically, to determine the meaning of Scripture, you choose one of the options that fits the rest of scripture and eliminate the options that contradict..
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But by revealing the way you interpret Scripture, you show where you have gone wrong…your logical deductions are opposed to the way in which the Holy Spirit would reveal…[Read more]

of course, it’s simple…but you keep denying it – “the Word was God.” John declares that when we read the very first verse of the Bible…”in the beginning *GOD*”.. we see the Father and the Son together as *GOD* (and the Spirit of God is present in creation in the nest verse)..

You say that us being one with God is the same as Jesus being one with the Father..but if what you say negates my point, then why is it wrong to worship men and angels, yet it is not wrong to worship Jesus..!?

Scripture declares the Son to be ONE with the Father…and the very reason why it is not wrong to worship Jesus as God – (if you have the Son you have the Father)..
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you confuse things by saying the Son IS the Father..!! I have never said that, nor do I know anyone that believes that..
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All understanding of the Trinity (that I am aware of)…[Read more]

Yes, your understanding of the Trinity comes from outside the Scriptures – hence you selectively use Scriptures to deny the truth of Scripture..!

Well this is exactly the problem you have when you get all tied up in logic…and forget that the LORD our God is ONE…!!!
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I guess this is your best response when I refute your friend’s argument – and say that man is triune because he is created in the image of a Triune GOD…

It was just a passing observation…If God is Trinity (and He is), then you’d think there might be some indication of this three-in-one nature in man…(seeing we were created in His image)..
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But you say that this idea has no merit on the grounds that..each component – body, soul, spirit – must be an actual PERSON with his own mind, will,…[Read more]

Scripture is not darkness. His Word is a light unto our feet…
So – open up your heart and let the SON-shine in…!
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You claim to teach what is clearly shown in Scripture…but really what you teach is not Scriptural at all..!
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Your ‘understanding’ of what the Scriptures mean comes from ‘outside’ the Scriptures themselves..so what you actually end up doing is ‘using’ Scripture to deny what the Scriptures say..!!…[Read more]