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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,12:58)Quote (Arnold @ July 26 2010,04:55)We used to have another W.J. coming here on H.N.all the time, and I thnk that He got chased away.  Don't let that happen to you……IreneHi Irene,No, the other David is still around.  He has assured me that he couldn't ever be “chased away” from HN.  :) Btw, I don't think Da…[Read more]

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    Quote (karmarie @ July 14 2010,23:57)Hi David.Begotten doesnt always mean born,Ideas are born, nations are born, children are born, many things are born not nessesarily the same (way).As is begotten. More than one meaning. Maybe,  Before the creation of the world,  How could Jesus be  'born' as we are born..  .. God is Spirit, God doesnt have the…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic Bodhitharta vs t8 in the forum Debates 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,21:00)God CREATED man in his image.God didn't create Christ in his image.Christ is the image of the invisible God. He is the fullness of deity in bodily form.We are not THE image and we are not the fullness. Each of us reflect in part.This is why he is the bridegroom and the Church is his bride.Hi t8,I've only read the…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ July 26 2010,03:39)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,11:51)Also, if Jesus was “AS GOD”, emptied himself and came as man, died and was raised again and established as King in his father's Kingdom (for a specified period) can it be summized that he was “Raised to a LOWER position” than that which he left because now he is in a lesser…[Read more]

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    Quote (Arnold @ July 23 2010,10:21)What I find so ironic is that in both of my post nobody has challenged me, why?   Is it that it is true that The Word of God is Jesus Christ?  Well it  is……And He will come again as The Word of God and King of Kings and Lord of Lords…..IreneHi Irene,Jesus is the “Word” in John 1:1The “word of God” is pr…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 25 2010,09:28)Mike…………..If Jesus according to preexistences created everything them he would have had to be in (THE) Beginning and No one was there in (THE) Beginning except GOD Alone.  Here is something to chew on brother.Isa 44:24…..> Thus saith the LORD, they redeemer, and He that formed thee from the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Arnold @ July 25 2010,16:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2010,07:21)Quote (Arnold @ June 01 2010,15:05)W.J. and K!  What do you think in the beginning means?  To me it means that Jesus did have a beginning.Really? The Father was there with Jesus in the beginning! So does that mean the Father had a beginning?WJYou are to funny, you s…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ July 25 2010,16:59)Quote Colossians 1:15, 16″Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created . . .” Can I ask what the problem is here – I seem to find no problem with it.”The firstborn of every creature”: Surely this just means exactly what it says?Some are queasy…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2010,16:19)Hello David,You make some EXCELLENT points mixed in with some thoughts that seem odd to me.I've heard you say people don't address your posts.  I'm not telling you how to post, but it seems like you throw every single thing you believe into one post.  And I can't speak for others here, but I hate to answer t…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ July 22 2010,17:59)Quote (davidbfun @ July 22 2010,09:12)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,11:32)Quote (thethinker @ April 09 2010,06:00)Martian said:Quote If you read my answers you will see conclusively that echad is not plural in any way.TO ALL: If there is so much as one statement in the Bible that contradicts Martian, then we…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,14:37)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 25 2010,05:30)Db…………………No two people will ever see everything exactly alike IMO, rather married or not. I have to laugh at people who say they never have a armaments or disagreements, in their marriages that to me is a big lie and a Joke. As far as i am concerned after…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ July 25 2010,17:45)Two is just enough for me but three would be nice.Did you say children – I can't remember – what was the question again?Must be blonde, like me? I think.In America we are trying to do away with the traditional standard of what constitutes marriage.Many women wasn't enough for men, now they want men.When is…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ July 25 2010,17:19)Davidbfun,Are you Male?Completely,Why do you ask?David

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    Quote (mikeangel @ July 25 2010,06:28)Both of you make good points. I know the differance between looking and lusting, and to my shame I notice the form and the frequency of movement. I would not stare or google, but I know it's more than appreciation for beauty. We are in our late 40s, and I guess youth in the mid 20s makes me miss the young…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2010,23:50)Sorry Gene, But that's just silly IMO.  Could we also ask God to glorify us with the glory WE had before in his presence?Are you aware of any glory you previously had in God's presence BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD?Come on man.  And you say I force the scripture?mikeHi Mike,I agree that it would be nice t…[Read more]

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    Gene,Bravo! To the point and on topic.But what about this,,,,one wife is sufficient problems,,,why multiply them? And don't get me started on the husbands….. :pDavid

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 25 2010,10:45)Wives must be a pretty good thing for them to want so many!  Makes ya wonder why the women didn't want a bunch of men…I guess that doesn't say much for the men.  Hmmm…The Bible says that the TWO shall become ONE flesh.Kathi,Where does it say that the TWO are ONE God?Yours is in Gen 2:24.David

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 25 2010,10:45)Wives must be a pretty good thing for them to want so many!  Makes ya wonder why the women didn't want a bunch of men…I guess that doesn't say much for the men.  Hmmm…The Bible says that the TWO shall become ONE flesh.You're so right….men are dogs….First 3 commandments from God dealt with…….Be f…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ July 24 2010,18:53)Davidbfun,Are you really male?I kinda get a wierd feeling about you?You not shooting straight, bowling a crooked ball, etc.Your views are interesting. You bring a refreshingly new dimension in stupidity.First, it was the Trinitarians, now that has fallen the antiTrinis turn on each other…normal for…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2010,22:20)Thanks David,I will consider your questions and present you with thoughtful answers hopefully soon. :;):Thanks Kathi,I know you will.You are one of a few that actually replies to what is written.In His Love,David

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