Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,11:03)Quote (david @ Mar. 05 2012,03:44)Quote Hi David,          Acts 5:3-4 (Point #1 HolySpirit is God)1) The entirety of my DNA coding is contained in my finger.You have yet to address this FACT concerning my finger.OK, So what are you saying:  That you can make another YOU with the DNA contained in your finge…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,10:50)Quote (david @ Mar. 05 2012,03:27)Quote God is spirit, no body is involved.Keep that straight and you'll learn more.Well whoever you think the “last Adam” is, he is also said to be a “spirit” so apparently, has no body either.  If you don't think it's Christ, say so.But being that it is Christ, and being that he…[Read more]

Quote (annie @ Mar. 07 2012,23:32)Quote (david @ Feb. 28 2006,07:04)I believe you make some good points.Where does the Bible say to celebrate Christmas?Why did the early Christians not only not celebrate Christmas, but shun the birthday celebration as well?Where does the Bible say that mixing ancient pagan fertility rites with Christianity is ok?…[Read more]

Quote Tell someone that has a picture of your face that it is not you and see how far this logic will get you.–ed.Ed, if asked if this picture is “you,” people will look and say “yes” but they understand the question to be:Is this a picture (representation) of me? ((We take short cuts in speech, and people who know the language understand them.…[Read more]

I think I have to start another thread. I do understand what you say about Luke. There are just so many other things in scripture. Either way, it's puzzling. I'll start a new thread. People will hate it.

Mike, although I'd like to speak on Luke 24, it is off topic and I'm really trying to stay on topic, and I think I may have actually started a thread on it, but simply can't find it. Frustrating.

Quote I will also give you a simple scenario:Ed said, “Mike, my name is NOT Ed!”Mike replied, “Ed, you are lying to MY FACE!”Then David asked, “Ed, why would you lie to MIKE?”Ed, my face is not ME, yet by lying TO MY FACE, you simultaneously lied to ME.  Are you able to understand this simple concept? MIKE, the actual truth is, if Ed has lived in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 03 2012,09:35)Quote (david @ Mar. 02 2012,15:00)Ed, I know I have asked this about 6 or 7 times, but if you believe that the holy spirit is God, I assume you have a file with scriptures in it, a list perhaps to explain this.Or, is it really just the 2 scriptures that you interpret to hint at this belief?  I really would like to…[Read more]

Quote More FAKE stories used to prove a real one?Here are the facts concerning Acts 5:3-4…Lie to the “HolySpirit” equals lied to God.And here are more facts that you have swept under the rug…Yes, Ed, that is a FACT.Here is a parallel FACT:“IF YOU CUT MY FINGER, YOU CUT ME.”YES, it's a fact that they lied to the holy spirit, and it says they…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 03 2012,09:29)Quote (david @ Mar. 02 2012,14:52)Jehovah (YHWH/YHVH) is GoddavidHi David,”YHVH is God”(117)  =  “Spirit of God”(117)  =  (117)יהוה האלהים  =  “God The Father”(117)                                                                                                                               God's Signature          …[Read more]

Quote Hi David, Acts 5:3-4 (Point #1 HolySpirit is God)1) The entirety of my DNA coding is contained in my finger.You have yet to address this FACT concerning my finger.OK, So what are you saying: That you can make another YOU with the DNA contained in your finger?Ed, if I took your DNA code and created another person with that very…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 03 2012,08:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2012,09:55)David,Ed will vouch for me on this:  Almost every discussion I've ever had with Ed eventually comes down to where you are with him in this discussion.There comes a point when you just keep repeating, “It is the Spirit OF God, and therefore not God Himself.”  To which he'll j…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2012,07:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,11:51)Hi David,The second Adam BECAME a life giving Spirit.Of course when he was raised in his old tent that had not yet happened.I agree, Nick.  But the scriptural fact is that Jesus IS a spirit now – with which I think you agree.The last 4 comments by nick all look like…[Read more]

carmel, you say:Quote Barley,I agree,Jesus is the first sinless Man God who was glorified in SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY,AND HE CAN BECOME BOTH VISISBLE AND INVISIBLE BECAUSE HE ACQUIRED A COMPLETE DIFFERENT SPIRITUAL TRANSFORMATION IN HIS DEAD FLESH AND BLOOD BODY. All we know is that the Bible calls him a “spirit.” See above. If you remember, angels…[Read more]

Quote God is spirit, no body is involved.Keep that straight and you'll learn more.Well whoever you think the “last Adam” is, he is also said to be a “spirit” so apparently, has no body either. If you don't think it's Christ, say so.But being that it is Christ, and being that he is called a “spirit” and being that everyone here seems to agree he…[Read more]

Quote God is spirit, no body involved.Jesus Christ now, and us in the future, has a spiritual body.–barley.Barely, pick any Bible. Then read 1 Cor 15:44 and 45 together.there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”e; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.The “so” connects the thought of the pre…[Read more]

Hi Barley, Quote I Corinthians 15:44″It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”I think the next verse sheds some light:1 cor 15:45:New International Version (©1984)So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.New Living…[Read more]

Ed, I know I have asked this about 6 or 7 times, but if you believe that the holy spirit is God, I assume you have a file with scriptures in it, a list perhaps to explain this.Or, is it really just the 2 scriptures that you interpret to hint at this belief? I really would like to see all the scriptures listed together. It shouldn't take that…[Read more]

If the sort of “evidence” that Ed suggests as proof were actually proof, then there would be about 6000-7000 proofs that Jehovah is God, just using his name and the word “God,” and not using other proofs, such as worship for example. If you included instances where it speaks of the “Father” (who is Jehovah) or the “Almighty” (who is Jehovah),…[Read more]

Jehovah (YHWH/YHVH) is GodThis is what evidence/proof looks like:“Jehovah your God”–455 times“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jehovah your God”“Jeho…[Read more]