Quote (david @ April 19 2012,17:46)Nick, show me a scripture that says: “God loves Nick.”  No such scripture exists.  Ergo…Although I haven't seen if Nick replied to this or not, since I no longer read his posts, as they are completely lacking in logic or thought, I will assume he did no answer this question.Hence, either God doesn't love N…[Read more]

Quote This debate is between me and Frank only; sorry, didn't read that before.

Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,17:43)Shalom David,I'm one for accuracies, not consistency in fallacies.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)If you are one for accuracy, do you think “Jehovah” is the most accurate way to “translate” the tetragramaton?

Nick, show me a scripture that says: “God loves Nick.” No such scripture exists. Ergo…

Quote (Ed J @ April 18 2012,19:53)Hi David,JEHOVAH and Jesus have been the standardized English way of saying YÄ-hä-vā and YÄ-shü-ă for quite some time now, David.Your brother in Christ, Jesus.Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.orgEd, you are essentially repeating words that I have said myself 100 times. Your argument is one of pop…[Read more]

I'm posting these words again, because I feel most of it is simply ignored. (Mike, was it this thread that you got these words from?)While the Bible certainly does hold out that the meek will inherit the earth (Ps 37:11,29; mat 5:5, etc) I believe there is ample evidence for some going to heaven, specifically, the chosen ones who would rule over…[Read more]

PHILIPPIANS 3:20-21“As for us, OUR CITIZENSHIP EXISTS IN THE HEAVENS . . .the Lord Jesus Christ, who WILL REFASHION OUR HUMILIATED BODY to be conformed to HIS GLORIOUS BODY . . . .”Is it unrelated that verse 20 speaks of “our citizenship” in the heavens and verse 21 saying that bodies would be refashioned to conform to Christ's glorious (he…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,07:37)Hi MB, So no scriptures that say any men will make their abode in heaven.Is there any scripture that says men will make their abode on earth?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,07:42)Hi, It is a JW dogma that some will be living in heaven but the common ones will have to make do with earth. JW dogmas are pure follyNick, could we leave logical fallacies aside for a moment and focus on the 40 scriptures that were listed that do seem to indicate there will be people going to heaven?Nick,…[Read more]

Quote I do think the thread title is a little misleading, because we agree that flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God, and “men” are made of flesh without exception. (That's one of the qualities that MAKES them “men” in the first place.)So in reality, we are discussing whether or not some who HAVE BEEN men in the past will dwell in heaven for…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2012,14:09)David,My sources contradict what yours say. Read the last couple of pages on the other Christmas thread that you started here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….3;st=20Lighten up, are there are sources that indicate that the early Christians celebrated jesus birth (or birthdays in general)?

First, where is mike?Secondly, Mike, I found one place where the topic of Jesus' resurrection (spirit or flesh) was had (page 37-40 of this thread.)Where did mike go?

“But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!”–KJVI see your refutation:”God has DWELLED among men before.Exodus 25:8And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.Exodus 29:45And I will dwell among the children of…[Read more]

“God never leaves heaven but His Spirit has ever been moving over earth and among men. He was in His Son and in His children and will never leave them. He will be in his Son when the Son returns to rule with his brothers in the seat of David.And He will make His dwelling place again on the new earth as Rev21 shows.”–page 32 of this thread,…[Read more]

1 KINGS 8:27““But will God truly dwell upon the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, themselves cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built!”

Quote Since the Hebrew language has no “W” sound.You HAVE added a “W” to God's name, YHVH!Ed, just curious what you think of the “J” found in the Hebrew scriptures of the King James Version. “Jehovah” for example. The KJ uses that word 4 times I believe.

Quote When we were looking for interesting educational material on the hard to believe properties of water (Did you know that bacteria in water react to solar flares as they happen – which is 8 minutes BEFORE we can actually see the flares – since light takes 8 minutes to reach Earth from the Sun?), Are you saying that something is travelling…[Read more]

Suppose you knew that a knife had been used for a dishonorable purpose. How would you feel about using that same knife for cutting and eating your food?

“The early Christians,” states Professor Ferguson in his book The Religions of the Roman Empire, “did not celebrate the birthday of Jesus; it was unrecorded.” The World Book Encyclopedia explains: “The early Christians did not celebrate His birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”–Vo…[Read more]

Quote Both Christmas and Easter force an unbelieving pagan world to remember “Jesus is Lord”!This simply isn't true. I could equally say: Attaching the pagan name “easter” to Jesus death/resurrection forces “christians” to remember paganism. Christians no more think of the paganism of Easter than non Christians think of Christ when celebrating…[Read more]