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    Are you saying men will have spirit bodies but be on earth?

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    The three things you mentioned were just three things that came up in our talking. I would replace political unpopularity with “political neutrality.”Right, anything I say isn't proof. Certain things remain undeniable however. I really can't talk now however.The fruits of the spirit, love, joy, peace, etc? Yes, that fits in with the thought of…[Read more]

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    Nick, what if having a personal relationship with Jesus, as most people say it, isn't all that is required of us?Have you found Jesus yet Nick? “Believe on the Lord and ye shall be saved.” It's just that easy right? If you truly love your father, you will obey him. You will obey what his son tells us. This is what the love of God means, that…[Read more]

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    So, Jesus was created a long long time ago.He came to the earth for a purpose.He carried out that purpose.He returned to heaven, where he has resided for eons and eons.He is a king, second only to Jehovah. Mat 28:18 “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.”You believe he is going to lower himself, empy himself again and take o…[Read more]

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    I'd like your thoughts on this scripture as well, please.John 14:2, 3: “In the house of my Father there are many abodes. Otherwise, I would have told you, because I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you home to myself, that where I am you also may b…[Read more]

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    What do you make of Matthew 11:11?Just wondering.MATTHEW 11:11“Truly I say to YOU people, Among those born of women there has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.”

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    It is ruled ultimately from heaven, but you're saying Jesus and his brothers rule it on earth. OK. give me a sec.

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    THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVENOn the night of Nisan 14, 33 C.E., Jesus intimated to his disciples that they would later be received by him and dwell with him and his Father in heaven. He told them: “In the house of my Father there are many abodes. Otherwise, I would have told you, because I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my w…[Read more]

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    THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVENThe way to heavenly life. The way to heavenly life involves more than just faith in Christ’s ransom sacrifice and works of faith in obedience to God’s instructions. The inspired writings of the apostles and disciples show that there must also be a calling and choosing of one by God through his Son. (2Ti 1:9, 10; Mt 22:14; 1Pe…[Read more]

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    THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVENThe apostle Paul in his letter to the Ephesians speaks of Christians then living on earth as though they were already enjoying a heavenly position, being raised up and “seated . . . together in the heavenly places in union with Christ Jesus.” (Eph 1:3; 2:6) The context shows that anointed Christians are so viewed by God bec…[Read more]

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    The Scriptures show that Christ Jesus was the first one to ascend from earth to the heavens of God’s presence. (1Co 15:20; Heb 9:24) By such ascension and his presentation of his ransom sacrifice there, he ‘opened the way’ for those who would follow—the spirit-begotten members of his congregation. (Joh 14:2, 3; Heb 6:19, 20; 10:19, 20) In their r…[Read more]

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    THOSE WHO GO TO HEAVENAt Pentecost, Peter said of David that he “did not ascend to the heavens.” (Ac 2:34) IN REALITY, NICK, THERE IS NOTHING IN THE SCRIPTURES TO SHOW THAT A HEAVENLY HOPE WAS HELD OUT TO GOD'S SERVANTS PRIOR TO THE COMING OF JESUS CHRIST. Such hope first appears in Jesus’ expressions to his disciples (Mt 19:21, 23-28; Lu 12:32…[Read more]

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    In responce to my repeated question: “Will a little number of people make up the kingdom?”YOU SAY: “YES I BELIEVE FEW WILL BE IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION OR RAPTURED,”OK, that's all I was looking for. Relatively few make up the “heavenly kingdom,” and they make up this kingdom for a purpose. I guess I can't go on to explain how those few number…[Read more]

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    CAN WE PLEASE JUST AGREE THAT A RELATIVELY LITTLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAKE UP THE KINGDOM?I'm just going to keep repeating that.OK, I'll go look for scriptures that say people go to heaven.Actually, I'll probably do that tonight.bye for now.david

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    Making a claim means nothing. Many say Lord Lord. By their fruits Nick, by their fruits.Does a religion have love among itself or do the members of a religion have love among themselves when they go to war with one another for example? On one side you have a priest saying: WE HAVE GOD ON OUR SIDE. And on the other side, you have a bishop…[Read more]

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    Actually, before I go looking for the scriptures that will show that a select few, a “little flock” do go to heaven for a purpose, can we reverse this and can you explain why you don't believe anyone goes to heaven.You've probably explained this before, maybe on this forum.

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    Your jumping ahead again. I haven't really discussed the number that go to heaven too much yet. CAN WE PLEASE JUST AGREE THAT A LITTLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAKE UP THE KINGDOM?and yes, of course the little flock are not goats. Why would Jehovah give goats the kingdom?I almost feel like starting a new topic: Does anyone go to heaven? But, since…[Read more]

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    Nick said: “So david,Who knows then if God has brought him into such a covenant relationship? Is it not necessary to know if God has done so or do you just wait and hope?”Nick, we're discussing this topic in the JW thread. Well, we're discussing how to recognize Jesus true disciples. We haven't really got into the Abba, Father, the spirit cries…[Read more]

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    We're talking about the kingdom of God in this thread, and the reason I have been talking about these holy ones, is that they make up this kingdom along with Jesus.Kingdom=heavenly government ruled by a king, along with the holy ones.Next, we've discussed the earth and how the meek will inherit the earth, how there is to be a new heavens, (a new…[Read more]

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    Didn't I just say that in the post above yours?”they do not become “holy ones,” or “saints,” by decree of a man or an organization, but by God, who brings them into covenant relationship with himself through the blood of Jesus Christ.”

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