IT CAME about that as were walking along, speaking as they walked, why, look! a fiery war chariot and fiery horses, and they proceeded to make a separation between them both; and Elijah went ascending in the windstorm to the heavens.”—2 Kings 2:11. What is meant by the word “heavens” in this case? The term sometimes applies to the spiritu…[Read more]

My thoughts sammo? Here are my first thoughts. They are somewhat unorganized and long. I am sorry for this.Let’s start with your words:“Why assume that the Father's house is in heaven? In fact, in scripture the house of God is always on earth (eg John 2:16).”1 KINGS 8:27““But will God truly dwell upon the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the…[Read more]

This addition, in 1 John 5:7 known technically as the “Johannine Comma,” was protected by the Vatican until 1927, in spite of the fact that even some Catholic scholars had raised doubts about its authenticity as early as the sixth century. This dishonest insertion shows the lengths to which Trinitarians will go in their efforts to prove their doc…[Read more]

FNMBG, T8 is right. I will try to respond to you in the “trinity” discussion.

Quote David and T8,I appreciate your responses fellas. Despite what you may hear, America is a very very violent country. Some of the inner cities here are like war zones especially St. Louis. It's so bad here that 2 years ago the State of Missouri passed a concealed carry law that allows law abiding citizens firearms on their personal body if…[Read more]

Quote I have to admit that this for me is a hard question. I also wonder about war. If we were enlisted to fight against an enemy (like the Nazis) would God allow or want us to kill the enemy. Was it God's will that people went to war and ended the reign of terror that the Nazis brought? If so, then it seems that God allows killing in certain…[Read more]

I didn't waste my time. I copied a previous post of mine. Your blue words are hard on my eyes. Nick and I discussed that scripture in detail in this thread a month or so ago.david.

Quote does the verse meant he was the first to be created or he was supreme over all that is created?Trinitarians say that “first-born” here means prime, most excellent, most distinguished; thus Christ would be understood to be, not part of creation, but the most distinguished in relation to those who were created. If that is so, and if the Tri…[Read more]

Wow, you must have beat me to that “soul” thread by 2 seconds t8. Kenrch,Quote My thoughts are the soul is the “inward man”:Animals are often referred to as souls Kenrch. Adam “came to BE a living soul.” It doesn't say he came to HAVE an “inward man,” or inner personality, but rather, he came to BE a soul. Are you saying that he came to be an…[Read more]

Another soul thread.

Just thought I'd add this:The final occurrence of the title is at Revelation 22:13, which states: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” It is evident that a number of persons are represented as speaking in this chapter of Revelation; verses 8 and 9 show that the angel spoke to John, verse 16 obv…[Read more]

Hi Mr. H.First off, if a certain title or descriptive phrase is found in more than one location in the Scriptures, it should never hastily be concluded that it must always refer to the same person. Such reasoning would lead to the conclusion that Nebuchadnezzar was Jesus Christ, because both were called “king of kings” (Dan. 2:37; Rev. 17:14); and…[Read more]

Quote 1) Old and New Testament Parallels of God the Father and God the Son2) Jesus Christ's Witnesses Claim that Jesus is God3) Jesus Christ Claims to be God4) Jesus' Miracles testify that He is God5) Jesus Christ is worshipedare you joking?

Hi Mr. H.There is lots on here that we could direct you to. You are right about James 1:13. It says that with evil things God cannot be tried. Yet, we know that Satan tried to tempt Jesus while on earth. (Mat 4) It's ridiculous to think that God could be tempted.If it is the trinity you would like to discuss with them, here are some points to…[Read more]

Quote And how can we be certain that we are of the truth. It is our love that proves this.true enough t8. But, Our love for whom would prove that we are really following Jesus?Jesus answers: “By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.”” (John 13:35)Jesus true disciples would have love among thems…[Read more]

Quote Just curious to get everyone's view on Christian self defense. especially with respect to guns. As christians can we own them? can we carry them for self defense in our ever increasing violent world? or is this a lack of faith? Would appreciate any response.Didn't Jesus say something like: All who take the gun willl die by the gun?It's true…[Read more]

OK, I've asked Nick this question about 5 times. I was so shocked to learn that some don't believe that anyone goes to heaven ever.I'm wondering what all of you who have been silent on this believe in this regard. I'm wondering if Nick was just one in his thinking or if there are more, or many more?

Quote The place I get a little confused is Romans 13. It certainly can't mean all governments are supported by God, because Jesus said “a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.” Does anyone have anything on this? ROMANS 13:1“Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing a…[Read more]

Satan the Devil could not silence the early Christians. Instead, he countered the impact of the good news by another means—apostasy. Jesus had foretold this development in his parable of the wheat and the weeds. (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43) The apostle Peter had also warned that false teachers would arise within the congregation, bringing in d…[Read more]

Doubtless on many occasions during his prehuman existence as the Word, Jesus acted as Jehovah’s Spokesman to persons on earth. While certain texts refer to Jehovah as though directly speaking to humans, other texts make clear that he did so through an angelic representative. (Compare Ex 3:2-4 with Ac 7:30, 35; also Ge 16:7-11, 13; 22:1, 11, 12, 1…[Read more]