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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote QuoteI will give you $ 1000 dollars if you can find these two words connected together of immortal soul written in the scriptures?You can't find a needle in a haystack, when that needle is not there Sir.And even David will have to back me up on that statement, because that is the same that his organization teaches too.Will you speak up…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote David what do the JWs call the soul in Matt.10:28? You know the soul that not even a JWs can kill, although they try awful hard :DKenrch, I've answered this question for you specifically twice already. You will just have to go back and check.

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote I said the following:”I speculate that if a man has eternal life then his soul exists eternally.” What's that scripture that says: “He who has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.”?You don't have eternal life until it is given you. Hence, you are not an eternal soul. You have the “chance,” as you've said, of becoming one. But…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote I will give you $ 1000 dollars if you can find these two words connected together of immortal soul written in the scriptures?You can't find a needle in a haystack, when that needle is not there Sir.And even David will have to back me up on that statement, because that is the same that his organization teaches too.Will you speak up David ?…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote Now if man is made in God's image, and if man is nothing but spirit and body as animals are, then what part is made in God's image?If I make a sculptor of clay in your image, what part of the image is made in your image?Something doesn't have to be the same substance to be the image of something. Look in the mirror. There is your image.…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote First off I would say that it is the spirit that gives life, not the soul. I speculate that animals do not have an eternal soul like man. If by eternal soul, you mean as you say that they have the chance to live forever, you shouldn't say it like that. When people say eternal soul, they have a completely different thought. Saying that…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    T8 said:Quote I agree that the spirit is the life forceGENESIS 7:22“Everything in which the breath of the force of life was active in its nostrils, namely, all that were on the dry ground, died.”This is speaking of animals, animals who had the force of life, or spirit.Quote If we are nothing but bodies and spirit, then we are no different to ani…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote As far as I know, the souls of animals (if they exist) are not spoken in the same way that mens souls are. Like animals, we have spirits and bodies, but we differ from the animals surely. If we are nothing but bodies and spirit, then we are no different to animals.Yes, God's word came to the same conclusion:ECCLESIASTES 3:19-20“For there i…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Quote As far as I know, the souls of animals (if they exist) OK, I stopped reading there.Animals are described of as souls in the Bible. It's not in question. Start in Genesis 1. You won't have to go very far to determine this.Animals are called souls.Animals have lives (souls).This is what the Bible says.

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    Quote Sorry david, I have kind of lost track of what you are saying. Are you arguing with yourself, or someone else. Who is someone else BTW? Hey T8. Since there is no hope of unoquivically proving John 1:1 either way in peoples minds right now, I was having a conversation with myself (someone else), but based on a much clearer scripture.david

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    Sammo, I am wondering what you think of all the scriptures that talk about the things on the earth being a shadow of heavenly things, a typical representation.Quote We know that the throne of David was in Jerusalem – which is quite clearly on earth.Yes, but the Bible clearly mentions a “new Jersualem.” It is also called “the Jerusalem above.”…[Read more]

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    Thanks Is 1:18. Your thoughts, as well as those of the others on here who disagree, have been added to my ever growing file on “heaven.”dave

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    Notice too, Someone Else, that John wrote what he wrote so that we may believe that “Jesus is the Christ.””Christ” is a word that means “anointed one,” if memory serves me.Who anointed him? God.My dictionary says that “anoint” means: “To choose by or as if by divine intervention.”God chose him for this purpose. Is not the one doing the…[Read more]

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    Quote QuoteJOHN 20:31“But these have been written down that YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name.”Ya, I don't know about that. Maybe by using the words “Son of,” John was saying that Jesus is the God son. That's what I think he meant.No Someone Else, Joh…[Read more]

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    Quote JOHN 20:31“But these have been written down that YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name.”Ya, I don't know about that. Maybe by using the words “Son of,” John was saying that Jesus is the God son. That's what I think he meant.Someone Esle.

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    I don't think the words: “Son of” should be in front of the word God in this instance. I feel the indefinite article….Just kidding. John is clear in saying why he wrote “these things.” That we may believe that Jesus is the “Son of,” let me say that again, the “Son of,” yep, that's what he said, he wrote what he did so that we could know and…[Read more]

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    If there is any misunderstanding or unclarity about John's first words in the book of John, perhaps these things could be cleared up by his latter words:JOHN 20:31“But these have been written down that YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name.”The reason Joh…[Read more]

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    Quote Now you are very fond of quoting scholars so I have decided to quote too. The following quote was made by a scholar agruing against (not for) the New World Translation of John 1:1c. Of course I am not endorsing the New World Translation, I am simply showing you that even a Trinitarian scholar arguing against the NWT, says what I am…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    Funny words coming from someone who teaches Greek philosophy, perhaps without knowing it.First, I never meant to give the impression that “soul” and “spirit” are interchangable, if I did. They are not the same thing. I did not mean to imply that, if I did.Before disagreeing with me, I should make it clear what I believe:The soul is basically a…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 8 months ago

    In the Bible, the words translated “spirit” basically mean “breath.” “The body without spirit is dead.” (James 2:26) The spirit is the invisible life-force—the spark of life that keeps the cells and the person alive. This life-force is sustained by breathing.“Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upwar…[Read more]

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