Quote But the whole point is, that one day natural Israel is going to repent. How could Romans 11 possibly be more clear?Romans 11 is clear, especially when we compare it to other scriptures, as opposed to simply looking at it in isolation and drawing our own conclusions.Rom 10:12 says “there is no distinction between Jew and Greek.”In verse 19,…[Read more]

Quote What do the JWs and the Catholics have in common? They are both the one true church One claims to be apostolic. The other claims to be Russellic One rejects the Spirit of truth. The other doesn't believe their is one Being someone who was once a Catholic, I believe we have almost nothing in common.By the way, as I've told you several…[Read more]

Besides his kingly identity with the royal line of Judah, Jehovah was enthroned in Israel in another sense as well. As Jeremiah expressed it: “There is the glorious throne on high from the start; it is the place of our sanctuary.” (Jer 17:12) Jehovah was spoken of as “sitting upon the cherubs” that were on the propitiatory cover of the ark of the…[Read more]

REVELATION 3:21“To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.”ISAIAH 66:1“This is what Jehovah has said: “The heavens are my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where, then, is the house that YOU people can build for me, and where, then, is the place a…[Read more]

For more than 1,500 years prior to Jesus’ coming as the promised Messiah, the fleshly nation of Israel was Jehovah’s special people. Despite constant reminders, the nation as a whole proved unfaithful. When Jesus appeared, the nation rejected him. (John 1:11) Thus, Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders:“The kingdom of God will be taken from…[Read more]

Don't scholars look to the Athanasian Creed as a standard definition and support of the Trinity?I propose a test, which granted, will take a while:Have two children. Make the first read the Bible (one with God's name not removed). Say nothing of the trinity, or the concept thereof, and keep him from all outside influence. When he is 20, ask him…[Read more]

Interesting Woutlaw. I've never heard that before.“There has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)While what you say may be true about the word “name,” I'm not…[Read more]

Quote The heavens and earth will be “new” because they will be reborn, regenerated, restoredHence, just as saints are “new” creatures after rebirth …(2 Cor 5:17) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.So it will be for the creation … it shall be…[Read more]

Sammo, speaking of Heb 11, you say:Quote “Moreover, verse 40 tells US that the promises that all the faithful people of the Old Testament looked forward to are the same promises that WE look forward to – and that we're all going to get our promise at the same time.”But if you look, you will see two groups mentioned here–an “us” and a “they.”[Read more]

Also, how are you connecting the “third heaven” to Yahweh's throne? (2 cor 12:1-4) Does this have something to do with the rabbinic tradition of seven heavens, where there are divisions in heaven?

So what makes it a “new” heaven? I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on that Eliyah, (and Sammo). What makes it different or new from heaven?And there's no need to quote me the scriptures that speak of the meek inheriting the earth. I have used them all countless times while talking to people in the ministry, and for the most part have…[Read more]

He didn't invent it. He simply popularized it.

T8, I didn't know where to put this. It doesn't deserve it's own thread. What is the Ekalesia Nieue (Niuean Church)?I know it's a protestant church in New Zealand, but does it make up 75% of the people there? Is that true? And what is it about?david

Interestingly, most often the expression “free gift” in the Bible is referring to the holy spirit. But there are references to another free gift. Here are a couple:ROMANS 3:24“and it is as a free gift that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release by the ransom by Christ Jesus.”ROMANS 5:15-17“But it is no…[Read more]

Quote The rulers (Elohim) in v1 are also the “wicked” described in vs 2-4 and the “gods” (Elohim) in v6. These are MEN, magistrates (judges) in the land of Israel. These judges had perverted and abused the authority God had given them (Dan 4:25, 30, 34-37, 5:18-22, Rom 13:1-4), and as a result of this God declared “Nevertheless you will die like…[Read more]

“The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all…[Read more]

Right.COLOSSIANS 3:2“Keep YOUR minds fixed on the things above, not on the things upon the earth.”Is that something like what you meant?

I'm sorry if I mistook what you were saying. I'm actually somewhat confused by what you believe now.It is this statment that troubled me:Quote I speculate that animals do not have an eternal soul like man. When I say eternal I mean that man has the chance to live forever.Had you not explained what you meant in the second sentence, then the first…[Read more]

You wrote what I was going to say before I got a chance.Here's an interesting question that sort of relates to what we're discussing in another thread:Once a person is saved, is he always saved?Jude 5, RS: “I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that he who SAVED a people out of the land of Egypt, AFTERWARD D…[Read more]

Quote Can you refute that a man with eternal life has immortality? No, they are the same.But what I'm saying is that you don't presently have eternal life. The person across the street doesn't either. Both of you could die tommorow. And you would have to be resurrected or brought back to life to have life. you don't now have eternal life or an…[Read more]