1. Many things in the scriptures are personified, given human qualities.So the personification of the holy spirit in itself does not prove that it is or is not a person. Some quick examples: Wisdom is said to have “children.” (Luke 7:35) Sin and death are spoken of as being kings. (Rom. 5:14, 21) While some texts say that the spirit “sp…[Read more]

“Who can produce someone clean out of someone unclean?” I have just read ramblinrose's link that talks about this scripture in Job. It states that this is not really what this scripture is directly speaking about, and that if we apply it thus, we must take it to mean that Jesus also has inherited sin.However, Ramblinrose, while it may not have b…[Read more]

There was no sin in the first man, no evil or suffering in his life, when he was created.Being God’s creation, they were sinless, or perfect. (Genesis 1:31; Deuteronomy 32:4) By choosing to obey, Adam and his wife, Eve, could bring praise and honor to their Creator and remain free of sin. On the other hand, an act of disobedience would indicate t…[Read more]

God's spirit Son “became flesh and resided among us.” (John 1:14) In order to accomplish this change in Jesus' nature, God miraculously transferred Jesus' life from heaven into the womb of the vigin girl Mary. In that way Jesus remarried God's Son, even though a human. Furthermore, since God, not any man, gave Jesus life, Jesus was born…[Read more]

Quote In other words, your post had nothing to do with the question at hand. Was David's child guilty of adultery, or did he simply suffer the consequnces for it? Whatistrue,MY POINT EXACTLY. The child was not guilty of adultery, yet he suffered the consequences of it. How does this compare with your understanding of Ezekiel 18:20, which I…[Read more]

WhatIsTrue, you cling to Ez 18:20 as strong proof of what you say. Yet you dismiss the following post as not applying somehow. I fail to understand you you can claim what you are about Ezekiel and dismiss the following:Quote Children may inherit diseases or defects from their parents. This can be so with hemophilia, thalassemia (Mediterranean…[Read more]

“Holy spirit will come upon you, and POWER OF THE MOST HIGH WILL OVERSHADOW YOU. For that REASON also what is born will be called HOLY, God’s Son. (Luke 1:35)It seems that Jesus birth was quite different from others–he was born “holy.”Jesus (I believe from conception onward) was truly “UNDEFILED, SEPARATED FROM SINNERS.”—Hebrews 7:26; 10:5.“Whe…[Read more]

Quote How did the angel announcing Jesus' birth refer to him?“This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High.” (LUKE 1:32)(Compare Ps 83:18, where it says that Jehovah alone is the Most High.)“For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son.” (LUKE 1:34)So the angel could have said: What is born will be called Go…[Read more]

WHO IS JESUS? IS THAT THE QUESTION?I know that all the scriptures I am going to show can be countered by saying: “It is a mystery that is not explainable.” But still, let's look at the question: Who is Jesus?How did the angel announcing Jesus' birth refer to him?“This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High.” (LUKE 1:3…[Read more]

“Your twisting my words for your gain. I am saying that without acknowledging his birth we have no death and resurrection of Christ, in which we have no salvation. We are to be joyous for this day, celebrate it. Not as the World does but as Christians should. You know what i mean, yet continue to point out that my words of choice are bad. Stop…[Read more]

Oneofthelordgeneral's, if you would like to pick one of those scriptures, we could discuss the contexts, how other Bible's word them, and how other similar scriptures relate. Please pick one other than John 1:1, as it has been discussed to death on here already. You have some interesting scriptures quoted. Please pick one that prooves the…[Read more]

I just thought we should bring this topic back to the top of the page.

Quote David,You wrote:QuoteWhatIsTrue, please answer the following based on what you know from experience or from books or whereever:1. Could a child conceived in this way by an imperfect woman be perfect and free from sin in his physical organism?2. How do the laws of heredity work when there is a union of perfection with imperfection?The book I…[Read more]

Quote David,You wrote:QuoteQuoteWe are born with sin which is why a newborn baby may die having not necessarily “sinned.” The wages of sin is death. Death should have no effect on anyone if he/she is truly without sin.I think the above is a good point by Cubes.You are right. I did fail to address this point. Think about this:Yahshua was…[Read more]

Children may inherit diseases or defects from their parents. This can be so with hemophilia, thalassemia (Mediterranean anemia), coronary artery disease, one type of diabetes, and even breast cancer. The children are not personally at fault, yet they may suffer as a result of what they have inherited.What about Ezekiel 18:20?Consider David and…[Read more]

Quote It doesn't make any sense that Jesus would quote entire sentences but omit the name (i.e Deuteronomy 6:4-5//Mark 12:29-30, Deuteronomy 6:13//Luke 4:8, etc).Right, Jesus would not cut his Father's name from quotations about him. That doesn't make sense, does it?

The shortened, poetic form of the divine name most likely does appear in YOUR Bible.Manuscripts of the book of Revelation have God’s name in its abbreviated form, “Jah,” (in the word “Hallelujah”). But apart from that, no ancient Greek manuscript that we possess today of the books from Matthew to Revelation contains God’s name in full. Does that m…[Read more]

Quote I am not saying that celebrating christmas is part of our salvation, but observing(celebrating) his birth is. If doing so is necessary to our salvation, why would not some mention of doing so be laid out in scritpure. Why is there absolutely no mention of something that is vital for salvation?Why is Jesus' birth date not revealed in…[Read more]

Quote The point im making is that Jesus is being called YHVH and so is the Holy spirit.I'm sorry Liljon, I must be a little slow. Where does anything you quoted show Jesus being called Yahweh, or the holy spirit being called Yahweh???david.Oh, also wondering what you think of this post:Quote Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2006,19:02)Babylon, Assyria,…[Read more]

I believe you make some good points.Where does the Bible say to celebrate Christmas?Why did the early Christians not only not celebrate Christmas, but shun the birthday celebration as well?Where does the Bible say that mixing ancient pagan fertility rites with Christianity is ok? I think it says quite the opposite.Quote I believe to observe the…[Read more]