Quote If what you teach is not based on scriptureand our test for truth is comparison with scripturethen all we can do is warn you about teaching from outside scriptureand appeal to you to restrict your teaching to what can be proven from scripture. hmm. I counted zero scriptures in your last few posts about this topic.I just checked my post.…[Read more]

Here it is Nick. If it is false, it should be easy to tear apart or explain the questions I ask in the post above.

With the trinity theory, there is what some would consider circumstantial evidence. But there is also a mountain of evidence that points the other way.With the trinity theory, someone says one thing, such as: “Jesus was worshipped.” Then, we point out that that word “proskyneo” has a variety of meaning and that that word was also applied to…[Read more]

Was Peter the “rock” on which the church was built?Matt. 16:18, JB: “I now say to you: You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church. And the gates of the underworld can never hold out against it.” (Notice in the context that the discussion centers on the identity of Jesus.)Whom did the apostles Peter and Paul understand to be the “rock,”…[Read more]

When I saw the spam, I PM'd you, t8. Does your computer tell you when you've been PM'd? And is there any difference between PMing “t8” or “heaven.”

Scroll up Nick. I realize that there is only circumstantial “bible evidence” and not a direct statement. But it is Biblical evidence none the less.

Hi Nine,I don't think robyn has posted anything for a couple of weeks.As well, many things have been pointed out to her. She seems blind to them.david

Someone starts a thread on Michael. Someone starts a thread on JW and we start to discuss Michael. Someone starts another thread on Michael. Someone starts another thread on JW and again, that subject comes up. I have reposted the above post, with additional comments (note 6b and 6c for example) in the following place:Sept 19/2006, General…[Read more]

I've added a few thoughts, since I've posted in this area. Since it's recently been brought up again, I thought I'd add to it. Notice points 1-5 and 6b and 6c for example.The following is taken from http://jehovah.to/exe/general/angel.htm:Some testimony of the early church fathers and othersCyclopedia of Biblical Theological & Ecclesiastical…[Read more]

Hi t8, there's getting to be a large number of topics. I think 700 or so. I believe there is a topic on Michael/Jesus in the truth or tradition area. There are also at least two similar themes in the “general questions” area. Any way they could be put in the same area?

Quote Demons are the disembodied spirits of the nephelim the children of the watchers (fallen angels) who were destroyed in the flood and killed through the conquests of Israel in the land of Caanan. This idea is interesting. I would like to see this proven from the Bible and not the book of Enoch however. What support do you have from the Bible…[Read more]

942767, why are you called 942767? And do you mind if I call you “Nine” for short?david

Dearest Nick,If you have found a statement that says that Jesus is without question not an angel, then please do share. If not, then I suggest you don't simply dismiss the following points I am about to show.(I would rather just talk about this in one of the many Michael the Archangel threads that have been started, or one of the other JW threads…[Read more]

Quote Hi,Must those following the way of Jesus be proven by speaking in tongues or miracles?It is surely more important that they manifest Christ in them in the fruit of the love of God, the love of righteousness, love of truth by abiding in the Word.

Quote Do you wish us to state a list of things that scripture does not say thatJesus isor is not? No, I wish for you to stop dogmatically saying that it's impossible that Jesus could be described as an angel, when both Jesus' actions, and the meaning of that term and scripture seem to indicate otherwise.(of course, a human “messenger” would not…[Read more]

Quote It is not written that Jesus is an angelIt is not written that Jesus is an archangelIt is not written that Jesus is Michael.That should be enough for us. Your three statements above are true.Here are three other true statements:1. It is not written that Jesus isn't an angel. (a word meaning “messenger.” In fact, He is without question,…[Read more]

Quote Is it water or blood that washes away our sins?Is this a trick question? Blood.

Nick, I'm not arguing that angels are exactly like Jesus. I'm arguing that your definition of “angel” is far too small. Jesus could be considered an angel or son of God. He difinitely fits in with the meaning of the word angel. He is God's Word, after all.I'm not saying he's simply one of the angels. I'm saying he's the arch angel.“And let a…[Read more]

Quote Administrators are appointed to their role.Beings have a unique nature.You could not be appointed an angel could you? But you do understand my point?Jesus was appointed to carry out his Father's will on earth.Nothing you said proves that I am wrong. You can apply many different better illustrations to prove that Hebrews doesn't necessarily…[Read more]

Definitely not.But if you aren't persecuted, or don't come against various trials because of your beliefs, you may want to ask yourself some hard questions.