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    I only am trying to point out the purpose behind why this was done in the first century.

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    And a couple verses later, we find these interesting words:1 CORINTHIANS 14:7-9“As it is, the inanimate things give off sound, whether a flute or a harp; unless it makes an interval to the tones, how will it be known what is being played on the flute or on the harp? For truly, if the trumpet sounds an indistinct call, who will get ready for b…[Read more]

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    A few years ago, I went to the Haulocaust Museum in Washington.Jehovah's Witnesses endured intense persecution under the Nazi regime. Actions against the religious group and its individual members spanned the Nazi years 1933 to 1945. Unlike Jews and Sinti and Roma “Gypsies”), persecuted and killed by virtue of their birth, Jehovah's Witnesses had…[Read more]

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    Quote You are gifted and represent them with enthusiasm and sincerity. I am nothing and have presented them pitifully. (I think when I speak with you, feelings of humility cannot help but rub off.)Quote Furthermore with all God has done in my life you would have me believe I'm unsaved?I would never say that to you. But then again, I would never…[Read more]

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    Quote This is one of the gifts of the Spirit that all should have. Really? Which scripture says that Nick?I was simply quoting scripture.Quote Yes it can be known languages but also unknown perhaps even angelic too?If the trumpet sounds an indistinct call, who will get ready for the battle?Quote If we do not yet speak in tongues why would we…[Read more]

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    Quote This gift of the Spirit is mainly for private use and for communication with God for help with needs we may not even know that we have.–Nick“You will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and . . . to the most distant part of the earth.” (Acts 1:8)When Jesus said the wor…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi,When a baby is born is is helpless, ignorant and immature. Birth signals that a man will grow from that infant but the man only appears many years later.Rebirth from above then does not show the character of Christ in us for a long time too and we are as men of the world for a long time till, if allowed to grow and fed by the Word we…[Read more]

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    Some other things. These magi, there is a lot of indications that they were astrologers. I will go into that if asked. There are at least a few Bibles that translate that word as “astrologers.”There is no indication or mention of anyone other then them seeing the star.The star didn't bring them directly to Jesus, but first to Jersulem where…[Read more]

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    Quote I wrote about it in another thread two days ago. So as for you? I must have missed it. Which thread?

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    Casey, in regards to question 1,The Greek word (a·po·ka′ly·psis) “revelation” denotes “an uncovering” or a revealing or a disclosure.A lot was revealed in that book.Concerning the revelation of “the sacred secret,” the apostle Paul wrote:“In other generations this secret was not made known to the sons of men as it has now been revealed to…[Read more]

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    Quote You have quoted this scripture several times without clarifying what it means to you as a JW. Can you do this for us please? HI Nick.In true Nick fashion, I will not answer your question, but ask another, and a very similar one to yours:You have repeatedly and quite a bit more than I mentioned the importance of being born again. Oxy said…[Read more]

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    HI NiCkWhen Jesus ascended to heaven, he did not immediately take up the scepter of rulership over the peoples of the world. (Psalm 110:1) However, he did receive a “kingdom” with subjects that obeyed him. The apostle Paul identified that kingdom when he wrote: “ delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingd…[Read more]

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    Quote Seems a bit strange that you belong to an organisation that claims to be the Church and yet it didn't exist back then. Hi t8. What did Jesus say about the weed and wheat? wasn't an apostasy fortold, by Peter, Paul, John, Jesus? Wasn't it already beginning while the apostles were alive? It wouldn't be until the harvest that a clear…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Denominations in the forum View Points 19 years, 11 months ago

    Quote Seems a bit strange that you belong to an organisation that claims to be the Church and yet it didn't exist back then. Hi t8. What did Jesus say about the weed and wheat? wasn't an apostasy fortold, by Peter, Paul, John, Jesus? Wasn't it already beginning while the apostles were alive? It wouldn't be until the harvest that a clear…[Read more]

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    Quote Seems a bit strange that you belong to an organisation that claims to be the Church and yet it didn't exist back then. Hi t8. What did Jesus say about the weed and wheat? wasn't an apostasy fortold, by Peter, Paul, John, Jesus? Wasn't it already beginning while the apostles were alive? It wouldn't be until the harvest that a clear…[Read more]

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    Quote All through the NT we see people being born again in all the ChurchesYes Casey. It seems a great deal of people were born again back then.Quote The entrance that was preached into this Kingdom made without human hands is done through being born again. I agree.Quote If one does not have the Spirit of God and has not obeyed this Gospel of…[Read more]

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    Quote David:Are you saying that a person can be a Christian without being born again?I am saying only what the scripture says:JOHN 3:3-5“In answer Jesus said to him: “Most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is BORN AGAIN, he cannot SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.” Nicodémus said to him: “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter into th…[Read more]

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    Quote Reflecting on the different use of words for baby or young child it would appear that the shepherds came and saw a newborn baby yet the magi visited a slightly older child but not necessarily of two years. Hi RamblinRose,I believe the astrologers arrived much later than the shephards based on the fact that to be sure Herod got Jesus, he had…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic BLOOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 11 months ago

    Quote As I see it the way of the JWs is an attempted way of “works done” in imitation of the OT way. You show constantly your obedience to certain commands, such as meeting together and preaching, as if these will save you. And where have I spoke of these things in connection with “being saved”?Nick, I don't really feel I am “constantly” showing…[Read more]

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    Hi Casey, looking back, you said:Quote WE are the priests and kings, not a mere select few. Then my question to you is a simple one:If all are kings, who do they rule over? If all are judges, whom do they judge? If all priests….?

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