Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,10:49)Quote (david @ Feb. 05 2013,16:02)Mike, interesting thread.Thanks David.  You have I have already had quite an extensive discussion in this thread.  Yes, was quite surprised to realize that. It's almost like I'm 74.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2013,12:29)I “insist” nothing.  I “SUSPECT” that there were “pre-Adam” type beings, who were not called “adam” in Hebrew.Therefore, I conclude from the scriptures that Adam WAS truly the first “adam”, but not the first humanoid creature on earth.Adam means “man.” Adam was the first man and he was basically named man.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2013,15:09)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,05:33)That does not mean that every family back then dont have many children,I think the contrary.I do think they were breading like rabbits.(free sex).And you may be right, Wakeup.  Perhaps Noah having his first children at age 500 was an extreme exception to the rule.  Perhaps A…[Read more]

I do find this idea of them (Noah, etc) not having children until later in life quite interesting. But I just don't see any reason for being confused about Cain and there being people there. It's really simple. Imagine a village. One guy does something bad and he is told to leave. The guy says someone finding me will kill me. So the leader…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,11:09)Quote (david @ Feb. 05 2013,19:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 29 2011,12:38)WHY were there already “others” out there in the land of Nod, living away from God's presence?MikeThis is the problem :The bible doesn't say there were others out there in the land of nod living away from Gods presence.  This is assumed…[Read more]

Quote Tim, do you know of an Atheist 20 times as intelligent as yourself.–t8I'm not an atheist, but I am 20 times smarter than most people, and I like a challenge, so I accept. :-)(I'm not saying I'm smarter than you Tim)Ok. Here goes. Thinking. Hmmm. Ok. One sec. Just a sec. Ok, check this out:Atheist is a weird word. It's a word that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2013,12:48)Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2013,17:27)If you are trying to reveal a great truth, you should not base it on a lie.  (Every time I've heard this story, the person passing it on believed it was Einstein.  It doesn't help credibility if you just accept what you want to be true and repeat it without question)Sure it doesn't h…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 13 2013,14:55)David,”If you are trying to reveal a great truth, you should not base it on a lie.”Isn't this the same thing I said to you about the parable on Lazarus? Might of been someone else.WmI don't think e Lazarus parable was based on a real person. How could it be? But regardless, if I create a story and say:…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 13 2013,14:26)Can´id`aen.1.a natural family of doglike mammals including the domestic dogs, wolves, jackals, foxes, hyenas, and coyotes.They might fit into some group, but dogs of today are not connected to foxes. They are from wolves. So, on the ark, there would be wolf, fox, etc. But, no need for a terrier, a…[Read more]

If you are trying to reveal a great truth, you should not base it on a lie. (Every time I've heard this story, the person passing it on believed it was Einstein. It doesn't help credibility if you just accept what you want to be true and repeat it without question)

Foxes are different from wolves. But all dogs today are modern versions of the wolf. They are all one “kind.” Some wolves were more tame and these ones approached human areas and ate garbage. The tamer ones made friends. Some of the wolves turned into what we might call wild dogs. And these wild dogs were domesticated and bread in whatever…[Read more]

Another reason many point to this being made up is the science ideas expressed about heat/cold, light/ dark. The science people say in stein would never say those things, saying there are inaccuracies in those ideas. But even so, logically, there is no reason to believe This happened to Einstein. I could make up a similar story right now.

It absolutely wasn't Einstein. This story never happened and it DEFINITELY didn't happen with Einstein.  This story surfaced, what 10 years ago?   It originally didn't have Einstein connected to it.  A couple years later, someone added Einstein to make the story better.  If it did happen with Einstein, why did it only surface a few years bac…[Read more]

the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living BEING.–New Living TranslationI finally understand why so many people are confused about this. Just checked biblecc website. Most bibles have “being” or “creature” here. But the word is actually “soul.”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 29 2011,12:38)But God already made man to toil on the earth after what Adam did.  And it doesn't address the point we're discussing:  WHY were there already “others” out there in the land of Nod, living away from God's presence?MikeThis is the problem :The bible doesn't say there were others out there in the land of nod l…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 06 2013,09:26)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2011,12:45)I heard a teaching based on the scripture where God told man to replenish the Earth. The point being that to replenish something indicated that it had already been plenished (is there a such word?) beforehand.T8, you have mentioned the “replenish” thing before.  Someone should…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2011,12:45)I heard a teaching based on the scripture where God told man to replenish the Earth. The point being that to replenish something indicated that it had already been plenished (is there a such word?) beforehand.T8, you have mentioned the “replenish” thing before. Someone should really look that up.

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2013,09:15)I don't profess to be an expert in this subject and have never worked out the logistics of how this could have worked. I guess it is possible that there were men before Adam, but that Adam was the first son. Who knows, the Universe is an old place and there have been many ages. And who were these sons of God that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:52)Perhaps David.But maybe you and Pierre could help me out with this point:Cain was banished to the land of Nod, hidden away from the presence of Jehovah.  It was, in Cain's eyes, a punishment almost too much to bear.So apparently, the favored children of Adam and Eve would not have been living in that place,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 25 2011,10:20)Maybe it was named that after cain was sent out.  Maybe it was named that because Cain wandered about in that area.  This wasn't written a second after it happened.  It was written much much later.  Maybe, by that time, it was well known as the land of Nod (wandering) because of past history.I see I've been her…[Read more]