-The Bible doesn't say the holy spirit is God.–The Bible gives no indication that the holy spirt was worshiped.–The Jews and the Hebrew Scriptures give no hint even that the holy spirit is a person, much less that it is worshiped as God. (They viewed God’s spirit as something God possesses.)–The holy spirit is never portrayed as a person, s…[Read more]

(Just trying to add some more of that humour)

Ok, yum. My butler made me some sort of fish sandwich. I'll ring this bell and have him bring me some water.

Quote Luke 2:21And when eight days had passed, before His circumcision, His name was then called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.If you could make your point more clear….

Quote It's unhealthy to eat a meal immediately before you sleep…. Ya, I know. I haven't made the sandwich yet. Maybe I'll just go drink some water. Be back in a minute.

So, have you two worked it out yet? This is what troubles me: It seems there are so many different schools of thought, as to what the trinity is. Anyway,Jesus himself credited God with the creation, as do all the Scriptures.—Mt 19:4-6The power for creation came from God through his holy spirit. (Ge 1:2; Ps 33:6) Since Jehovah is the Source of a…[Read more]

Quote Jesus is Co-Creator of the creation. –WJQuote No. “Jesus” was not.–Is 1:18I think I'll let you two discuss this for a while. I'm going to go make a sandwich.david

Quote It is interesting how it took a couple hundred years for men to believe that God has multiple personalities. Yes, it is interesting, isn't it. I have an idea: Let's bury that thought in the sand and forget it exists. Apparently, immediately after the apostles died off, there was a complete flip in thinking and the “church fathers” as they…[Read more]

Quote BTW Dave, this thread was called “question (singular) to the trinitarians”, it doesn't give you license to cross examine the trinitarians 'till the cows come home'….thats a “newsie” phrase, I think….I know. I'm just having fun and I'm sleepy, as I've said.

Quote Is the builder of the building also the creator? yesI'm not sure about that.It is because of God's will that they existed and were created. (Rev 4:11)If Solomon's temple is built by workers, are they considered the creators?They are the builders. The creator would be solomon. Quote Truth or Tradition? » Question to the Trinitarians

Quote So….are you saying that YHWH and someone else was involved in creating the heavens and the earth? Quote Interesting….so do I take that as a 'yesAgain, I'll be asking the questions here.1. So, do you take that as a “yes.”I'm just being difficult. I should have went to sleep a while ago.2. Was Jesus “involved” in creating the heavens and…

Quote Can't help but like your humour Dave (even though I detest your christology). So….are you saying that YHWH and someone else was involved in creating the heavens and the earth? Wait a second. This thread is: “Question to trinitiarians.”so as I said to WJ, I think I will be asking the questions in this thread, unless you want to ask some…[Read more]

Quote So….are you saying that YHWH and someone else was involved in creating the heavens and the earth? I'm saying that Jehovah created the heavens and earth through his son.I would never speak of Jesus as the creator. He isn't. Jehovah created the heavens and the earth. But he used his son to do it.But my question to you was:Quote “If Mr.…[Read more]

Quote DavidIs God a Spirit. Are we to worship him? Is his Holy Spirit part of him? First, is God a spirit?JOHN 4:24“God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.””Yup, scripture seems to say “God is a spirt.” So, ya.And, while I'm not going to go find the scriptures, obvioulsy, yes, we are to “worship him.”Quote Quote DavidII Cor 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord , there liberty.18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.Jn 4:2424 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and…[Read more]

Quote The Holy Spirit :· Speaks, Acts 13:2· Hears, John 16:13· Teaches, John 14:26· Intercedes, Rom 8:26· Testifies, John 15:26· Guides, John 16:13· Commands, Acts 16:6,7· Appoints, Acts 20:28· Leads, Rom 8:14· Reproves, and convicts of sin, John 16:8· Seals, God's promise in believers' hearts, Eph 1:13,14· shapes the individual's and community&#…[Read more]

WJ just reposted something he posted on Jan 8th.So, I guess I'll repost my responces to that post:Quote QuoteICor 12:13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.WJ, why does the holy spirit seem to be often compared or paralleled to…[Read more]

so, my question:You said:Quote QuoteGod =Father,Son and Holy GhostThen you list scriptures and say:QuoteEither accept them or deny them or ignore them.There is One God! Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I'm sorry. Which of these scriptures said that God's holy spirit is God?Well?

Quote DavidCan you seperate God from his Spirit?No more than I can separate you from your finger, or you from your breath, or you from your hand….You get it.Wait a second. I thought this thread was called: Question to the trinitarians.So, I'll be asking the questions in this thread.