david replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote The other thing that I advise is to not spend to much time on him. I personally do not want to cast pearls before the swine and I know in his case that he will trample under foot any precious truth in scripture that doesn't hold his view.I know. I have tried to converse with him. I've responded to much of his posts. But he posts the exact…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 9 months ago
I see Sultan raised the same point against that very odd line of reasoning, saying:Quote And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,( Eph. 1-2)Using your logic…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 9 months ago
I have never understood this argument:Is 1:18 stated, on Mar 26, a few pages back:Quote If God is Spirit and the Holy Spirit is Spirit, wouldn't that, by default, make the Holy Spirit….well…..God? If man is flesh and animals are flesh, wouldn't that by default, make man an animal?If “Isaiah 1:18” is a trinitarian and Hitler is a trinitarin,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote Quote (truebelief4u @ Mar. 25 2006,11:11)According to the Hebrew understanding for thousands of years, throughtout the O.T., the “spirit” was a “thing,” not a person. Why would this suddenly change in the N.T.? The “personification” of the “spirit” is a product of the church, not the Bible….No Hebrew or Jew ever considered (nor do they…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 9 months ago
Sultan began this post by asking some questions:Many people claim that the Holy Spirit is a person because attributes are given to it that can only be used to denote personality. I would like to challenge that notion and prove from scripture that this kind of thinking is not infallible, and that perhaps too much is being read into the text based…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 9 months ago
I'm not sure how these things really relate to the question of whether the holy spirit is a person or not, but here goes:“For I am the Lord that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: YE SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY”? (Lev. 11:45)Jehovah God is holy and demands that those who render him sacred service be holy. They must pursue…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Nick, do you still think “God” is the “name” of the holy spirit?
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote They are the ONE BEINGNick, which scriputres would you use to back this up?And which scriptures do you think argue against the holy spirit being a being, or being one being with God?
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote Hi david,As my finger it is of me.It has no name but shares my name as we are the same being. It's of you nick, but you would never say your finger is named “Nick.”Yet you insist God's finger is named God. It is the Spirit “of” God, not God himself. Is God's wisdom called “God?” No. It's called God's wisdom. Is God's strenght callled…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote QuoteHi W,Who are you trying to convince in your unscriptural mission to draw men to worship the Son rather than God? Would it not be better to obey the Son and tell men to worship God before you have to meet him and explain your actions?DavidJn 4:24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.II Cor…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote God names Himself as “I am who am”.That is not a personal name but a description of the LIVING GOD.Men have added vowels for various reasons but that also does not make a personal name either.He is.If you look in that account, Nick, you'll also find an actual personal name. Please check that account again.What does any of this have to do…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote If you stood deliberately on my toe then you could be arrested for assaulting ME.Right. I got that. That's what I've been saying. But your toe isn't named Nick, any more than God's holy spirit is named God.
david replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote Is that the best you can come up with?CB, you have to be kidding. You continually repost your previous posts over and over without actually discussing anything. I've made several comments to your posts. You've ignored them all.Someone makes a comment that for once doesn't actually completely disprove what you just said and you attack…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Nick, what are your thoughts on the way the holy spirit is spoken of in the Bible as a whole?Quote Posted: Jan. 11 2007,06:49 EDIT QUOTELet's look at one use of the holy spirit, as spoken of in scripture:USED IN PARALLEL WITH QUALITIES AND OTHER IMPERSONAL THINGSNotice the way the holy spirit is used in association with other impersonal…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Nick, I'm trying to understand you. I'm trying to have a conversation with you. But you keep ignoring my questions:Quote In the “trinity thread, NICK WROTE:”Hi david,The Holy Spirit has a name.God.I then asked:“I'd like you to show me why you believe: the holy spirit is named “God” when God isn't actually even a name? ? ?”Nick, I don't dis…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus Christ is God in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
WJ stated:Quote Is Jesus the personification of wisdom in proverbs or is he God from whom all wisdom originates?Jesus is not the personification of Wisdom. Wisdom has its origin in Jesus. There is no scriptural proof that the proverbs is speaking of Jesus.First of all Jesus is not Female.The LORD, Jehovah of the Bible, has infinite wisdom in…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Let's look at one use of the holy spirit, as spoken of in scripture:USED IN PARALLEL WITH QUALITIES AND OTHER IMPERSONAL THINGSNotice the way the holy spirit is used in association with other impersonal things. You can be filled with it, along with such qualities as wisdom and faith or joy and at 2 Corinthians 6:6, we see that holy spirit is…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
In the “trinity thread, NICK WROTE:”Hi david,The Holy Spirit has a name.God. I then asked: “I'd like you to show me why you believe: the holy spirit is named “God” when God isn't actually even a name? ? ?”I then repeated this question on the next page.Then, later I asked again:“NIck, when you come back, I'd really like an answer to my quest…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote If the Spirit is just the power of God why was Christ anointed with the Holy Spirit AND power?You are right in this. The references you quoted were from 85 and 1952. “Power” is of course not right. We were wrong in this.There are several refernces. But here's two:”It would not be quite accurate to say that the holy spirit is God’s p…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
94, I'm very sorry. Can you re-ask the question.
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