Quote Hi CB,The Holy Spirit must be treated with the same respect that the Father Himself is due. To blaspheme the Spirit is to blaspheme God the Father Himself, and is far more serious than blasphemy against the Son of God. But we do not pray to or worship the Spirit of God as God do we?Don't expect him to reason with you on scripture. He is…[Read more]

Quote The Holy Spirit is the God of Israel2Sa 23:1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,2Sa 23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.2Sa 23:3 The God of Israel said, the Rock…[Read more]

Quote david has given a good effort towards scriptures well done.Little thisty but you know!!!!!I hope all shall be free to anounce what they find is truth, and to be free without being acussedand hopefully we may find unityI would rather us all find truth, than unity. Those who have the truth, are united. This group, will not ever be united,…[Read more]

Quote I can only say Heaven help the world if david proceeds to get this all right Charity, when you use the word “heaven” and ask “it” to “help” the world, I take it you are using personification.

LOVE–WE ARE COMMANDED TO LOVE JEHOVAH AND JESUS. WHAT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?We are required to love God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ; but no one is ever required to love the holy spirit. No such precept is given, nor is there any reference to it. Why? LOVE–BETWEEN FATHER AND SON. WHAT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?In many passages, Jesus spoke of the…[Read more]

WJQuote Rom 15:30Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the “love of the Spirit”, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;Gal 5:22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,Phil 2:1If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort…[Read more]

Quote David, how do you think we have love for our enemys. Its through the Spirit. the fruit of the Spirit.God says he has given us the Spirit of Love!God is Love. God is Spirit. The Spirit of God is one with God, so the Spirit also loves!I agree with everything you said up until those last five words. Going back for a second, notice that none of…[Read more]

Quote How did Jesus know the woman at the well had several husbands?He received a Word of Knowledge, one of the gifts of the Spirit.How did Paul know the woman advertising him was not of God but had a spirit of divination?By the gift of discernment of the Spirit of God.How did Paul pray? Using his mind but also the gift of tongues by the same…[Read more]

Quote DavidGive me your interpretation of this scripture!II Cor 3:17KJVNow the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.NLTNow, the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, he gives freedom.NIVNow the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.ESVNow the Lord* is…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Where have I said the Spirit is another person?That is the foolish derivations of men who seem to believe the living God can exist without his own living Spirit.Sorry, but your belief about the holy spirit being named “God” seemed so trinitarian or close to what they believe, I may have mixed you up with one of them.

Quote Those who are born of the Spirit,(Oops did I say that?How can a force or power bring birth to anything?), know that the Spirit of God is present wherever the Father and Son is at work!Yes, I know this, that the spirit of God is present wherever the Father and Son are at work. That's an excellent point. The spririt of God is noticable when…[Read more]

Quote A close examination of these scriptures shows intimacy of relationship with the Father.Just out of curiousity, where are the scriptures that show intimacy of relationship between the Father and holy spirit or between the holy spirit and Jesus?Or where are the scriptures that speak of the love that the holy spirit has for the Father? Or vice…[Read more]

Quote The Jews were quite aware of the Spirit as God manifested in prophets and the Holy of Holies in this wayWhile you bring it up, find me one reference anywhere from any encyclopedic source that says the Jews believed the holy spirit was a person, or that it was “God.” Please, start now. I'll wait.Quote The Spirit is just the FORCE of…[Read more]

Quote I have an idea since scripture is apparently to ambiguous to decipher why don't we ask the apostles who wrote it what they meant.Oh, shoot. They died.Well, then lets ask the churches whom they wrote the letters to. Like the church at Smyrna, Jesus was please with Smyrna.Oh, shoot. They died too.Well, then lets ask the second generations of…[Read more]

Other than the first page of this thread, I havent really noticed people on here talking about the alpha and omega. Why is that?I mean, there are many trinity threads. This one is about the phrase: “alpha and omega,” isn't it?

The correct identification of the holy spirit must fit ALLl the scriptures that refer to that spirit. With this viewpoint, it is logical to conclude that the holy spirit is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will.—Ps. 104:30; 2 Pet. 1:21; Acts 4:31.To understand what the Bible as a…[Read more]

Nick,Quote Surely the finger of God is one with God along similar lines.Nick, i don't doubt that the finger of God is “one with God” any more than I doubt that my thumb is one with me.But my thumb is not a person. Although it can be spoken of as doing all sorts of things, spoken of in personal terms, and often used in parallel with myself,…[Read more]

Does anyone esle, who hasn't commented on this, perhaps want to make some comment?

Quote We must respect the Spirit of God as God.That we must Nick. One way we can respect God's holy spirit is by not going against it's workings. We must also respect God.One way we can respect him is by teaching the truth and not misrepresenting Him or his holy spirit.I asked you to show me why you beleived the holy spirit's name was “God.”…[Read more]

Quote Hi Is 1.18,Christ was fathered by God by His spiritand born a son of God and Man but he had been with God in the beginning. Nick. Can you hear yourself.Over and over again, you hear people say: “The son of God is God.”And you look at that as foolish. It's like the “I'm my own grandpa” song. Ridiculous. The son “of” God is related to God,…[Read more]