Is 1:18, I'm sure there are examples you could point to. But I don't think this is the best one.Quote Mark 12:2928One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” 29Jesus answered, “The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD (Kurios) OUR GOD IS…[Read more]

Quote David these scriptures refer to the Holy Spirit as Jehovah not as the finger of God which you have your own interpretation on. There is no other way of honestly looking at it.Where do they do that? Please show me. I commented on the first two scriptures just yesterday. If you feel that the first two scriptures somehow show that God is the…[Read more]

I know. I agree with most of what you say. I'm just saying that I'm not sure this scripture can in good conscience be used as a primary scripture for refruting the false trinity belief.There are so many others.This scripture, as far as I can tell speaks of idol gods, (false gods) and then says that there is really only God, in contrast to these…[Read more]

Nick, I'm not certain Jesus is one of those that is a so CALLED god. Jesus is in every right, a mighty one, God. He isn't simply called a God. He is Mighty God, in scripture. And looking at the context, we see that it is speaking about false “mighty ones,” ones that are CALLED GOD, but really aren't mighty at all. The scriptures call them…[Read more]

Quote Of the Pharisees Jesus states: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh of a lie he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it”.And so obviously, Jesus was not saying that…[Read more]

GOD'S FINGER:MATTHEW 12:28“But if it is by means of GOD'S SPIRIT that I expel the demons, the kingdom of God has really overtaken YOU.”LUKE 11:20“But if it is by means of GOD'S FINGER I expel the demons, the kingdom of God has really overtaken YOU.”I think calling God's holy spirit “God's finger” helps us to reason out what the holy spirit is. We…[Read more]

Quote The issue David is that you twisted my words for some perceived advantage.So, please do tell me: Tell everyone: What perceived advantage did I gain by changing the phrase: we “can” worship the holy spirit to “we should worship the holy spirit.”? ? ?If the holy spirit is God, one would think that my phrase is more correct than yours. AFter…[Read more]

Well CB?

Quote How do you see that the Spirit of Jesus that was with the Father Died!Remember when God breathed spirit into Adam's nostrils?Remember when Job spoke of spirit as being in Job's nostrils?Spirit (a word that literally means: wind, breath, air, etc) doesn't have a personality. You are confusing the fact that God IS a spirit and angels ARE…[Read more]

You misunderstand me. I'm asking you to suspend your posting on the general forum for a couple days so we can have an actual conversation. Really, this should save you time, as you won't be in 9 threads at the same time. Only one thread. This one, ifyou like.Quote The scriptures have to be considered in their entirety.This is what I'm asking,…[Read more]

Quote Wrong again! David!NWTRev 22:12,1312 “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. 13 I am the Al´pha and the O·me´ga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.David you own Bible betrays you again. Who is Alpha and Omega.Rev 1:8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending…[Read more]

While some texts refer to the spirit as ‘witnessing,’ ‘speaking,’ or ‘saying’ things, other texts make clear that it spoke through persons, having no personal voice of its own. (Compare Heb 3:7; 10:15-17; Ps 95:7; Jer 31:33, 34; Ac 19:2-6; 21:4; 28:25.)Look at this text again. If you're trying to equate Jehovah with the holy spirit, you are mis…[Read more]

Quote The Jews were worshipping the Holy Spirit when they worshipped Elohiym or Jehovah.yet, in all those pages, we are not told this. You believe it, but we are not told it in scripture.If you check the encyclopedia's, Jewish, or otherwise, you will similarly find that at no time did the Jews worship the holy spirit or consider it a person. Why…[Read more]

Quote No David. He is called “Mighty God”, “gibbowr 'el”.Why do you ignore the truth before you? Sorry!I think we were just having a major misunderstanding. Yes, of course. I know he is called “Mighty God” in scripture. These words fit.When I kept saying “mighty one,” i was referring to what the Hebrew word for God essentially means.Sorry for…[Read more]

Quote DavidIll post a previous post like you do!John 1:1″In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” The “Word” refers to Jesus (v17), the only begotten of the Father who became flesh and dwelt among us (v14). This affirms that Jesus is a separate individual from the Father (He was with God), and yet He Himself…[Read more]

Quote God, “Theos” which means;1) a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinitiesI'm moreso wanting to know what you think the Hebrew term and greek term mean.

Quote But did you know David that the word Mighty God is also used for the Father?Yes, obviously I do know that. And your point?Did you know that Jesus is called “apostle”?Quote So your argument carries no weight at all! Which argument? You mean us looking at what the actual word means?Quote So Jesus is fully God, one with the Father and the…[Read more]

Quote Let's see how you dance around this one again with your JW tactics.First, your methods are dishonourable. This is a fallacy of reasoning, and you are using false logic to meet your aims. Please see the “five common fallacies” thread. (Just do a search on the word “fallacies”)Whenever someone realized they can't actually have an actual…[Read more]

Quote Quote”yes,” I can do that. Absolutely. I won't, though.Okay….but your assertion therefore remains unsubstantiated conjecture and should be treated as such (ignored by all)…..Heres' the thing, Is 1:18. I make the statement that Jehovah is called “Almighty” 43 times about once a week on this forum. You contend that this is wrong. We…[Read more]

And that represents “twisting” your words.”This is why I haven't taken you seriously because you twist my words and resort to falsehood and misrepresentation,” you said.I'm sorry for correcting your statment.So I shouldn't have corrected you? So you believe that the holy spirit “can” be worshiped, but saying that you believe he “should” be…[Read more]