Quote The Holy Spirits name is also Jehovah.CompareJer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD(JEHOVAH) I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man…[Read more]

WJQuote Read it again. The Holy Ghost spoke Jer 31:33. Acts 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not…[Read more]

Quote Why do you think I talk about Jesus so much and not the title Father?Perhaps because you don't really understand what the “kingdom of GOD” is. The Father is referred to as God and the kingdom that was fortold of being preached in our time is his. He has places his son as a king-designate. ACTS 8:12“But when they believed Philip, who was d…[Read more]

Quote I never thought of the impact these discussions might have on guests. Indeed, it could be informing many people and both sides get their say.I know. For a long time after coming to this forum, I never even considered that. But A LOT of people visit this site and never post a comment

Quote The central theme of their preaching is God’s Kingdom (that is, God's rule over the Earth) with Jesus Christ as its king.WJ, just out of curiosity, shouldn't this be the central theme of our teaching? God's kingdom?Jesus spoke of it A LOT.And look what he fortold:MATTHEW 24:14“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the…[Read more]

Hi WJ, or is it JW?Quote Hi JW,I will answer your questions.1. I have attended this church for about 16 months now.2. No, I was saved 26 years ago in a Southern Babtist church.3. Yes, they preach that repenting of your sins and accepting Jesus Christ as your personal saviour is the only way to salvation.4. Our church has just recently had some…[Read more]

Quote I now find it hard to believe that our church, as well as mostChristian churches will almost cast you out if you say that you do not believe in the tirnity.Ask me how I know about my church. I just left a discussion group at the church todayabout the trinity concept and before it was through most everyone was either angry with me orshaking…[Read more]

Hello Timothy.Timothy, the truth, as you know, is that the apostles and Jesus fortold an apostasy. The truth, as you know, is that the trinity wasn't solidly established as a teaching until hundreds of years after Christ.Welcome to the forum.david

I realized that it should be 10:15, not Hebrews 3:15Quote DavidIt dosnt say the Holy Ghost is quoting God. Its says the Holy Ghost is speaking the words, he is the One saying it.So if the Holy Ghost is saying it then the Holy Ghost is also God!Um, he's quoting from the Hebrew scriptures. He's quoting something “the Lord” said, in Jeremaih.…[Read more]

Quote What more can I say. I show you multitudes of scriptures where the Spirit is personal and you hold to your view he is a puff of wind from God or a mere force.No, I'm merely attempting to get you to acknowledge that everywhere the word “spirit” occurs, it doesn't always refer to a person. You have yet to agree with that. You keep saying:…[Read more]

Hi CB.Let's stick with just this one scripture for a moment, since you quote it so much.Hebrews 3:15,16,17New International Version”The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:”This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their…[Read more]

Quote “If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.”Apparently, there are some who “really” are Jesus “disciples.” These ones “know the truth.”Yet I get the feeling Nick doesn't believe the statement in bold. Do you Nick? The statement in bold? What does the scripture say…[Read more]

Quote DavidSo the answer is No. You cant interpret the scripture that I give you. You give me this long exegesis of the word spirit.”The Lord Is that Spirit”Tell me David, what is your definition of the word Spirit here, how would you interpret it? I thought the stuff I put in bold was my understanding of it. Besides. I asked you BEFORE YOU DID…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,But God is not a JW.Why do you repeatedly say obvious things that I don't disagree with!!!It bothers me greatly, because by doing this, and you do it a lot, you make it appear as though I believe those things.Imagine if I said, out of the blue:”Hi Nick,Nick, Satan isn't a good guy though….”Obviously not. Then why do you so often…[Read more]

CB, you've posted the above scriptures before. If you don't want to discuss them, why post them? If you can't have an actual conversation or take scrutany or take actually looking at the scriptures, then why even post them?All those scriptures you posted about the holy spirit having personality, speaking, teaching, comforting, etc.I HAVE A…[Read more]

Quote The Holy Spirit being God is also a Person with His own will.Is God's finger God? Or is it something he possess? CB, is your finger you? Would you call your finger CB (if that is your actual name) Or is your finger something that you possess? Is your finger the finger “of” CB, or is it CB?The answer is obvious. So obvious, it will be…[Read more]

Quote CB, for weeks, all you would do is post your same posts. I'd respond to them in multiple threads. You would never answer ANY of my questions. Those words of yours above apply well to you. You speak of “tactics” and then in the same sentence, you use the tactic of attacking the person rather than defending your weakening postion.And if…[Read more]

“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.” Apparently, there are some who “really” are Jesus “disciples.” These ones “know the truth.”Yet I get the feeling Nick doesn't believe the statement in bold. Do you Nick? The statement in bold? What does the scripture say?

Quote DavidGive me your interpretation of this scripture!II Cor 3:17KJVNow the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.NLTNow, the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, he gives freedom.NIVNow the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.ESVNow the Lord* is…[Read more]

Quote I am just curious if anyone has actually had a change of mind.For the most part, I have only been strengthened in my beliefs. I have had one or two changes in thought, things I've never considered. But they are minor and inconsequential.