Quote THE NWT Jehovah's Witness's Arian “bible” contradicts you.Please show me where. Before, you quoted:Quote NWT II Cor 3:17Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.Can you explain how this contradicts what I believe?

REVELATION 22:8-18“Well, I John was the one hearing and seeing these things. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel that had been showing me these things. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! All I am is a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who are prophets and of those who are obs…[Read more]

Quote David, we don't work with hypothesis and confusion: only Biblical facts.The Bible fact is that both Jesus and The Holy Spirit are both Jehovah (God).I assure you, that you don't know what the word “fact” means.

Quote From the Jehovah's Witnesses own Bible.NWT II Cor 3:17 Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.yes. And?

Quote Again.If the major translations thought it should be something else other than what it says in english the would have put it there.When I said something like: “Some translationed consider this verse to be spurious” your trinitarian accomplice Is 1:18 pointed out that I was committing a fallacy of 'appealing to authority.'Anyway, your main…[Read more]

CBQuote From the Jehovah's Witnesses own Bible.NWT II Cor 3:17Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.Quote Even your Arian “bible” (NWT) contradicts you lot.CB, you only quoted ONE scripture from the NWT. Is that “a lot” in your mind? I guess I now know why you think that there are “a lot” of scriptures…[Read more]

CB,Quote Group: MembersPosts: 307Joined: Dec. 2006 Posted: Jan. 18 2007,05:29 QUOTEDavidQuoteAll those scriptures you posted about the holy spirit having personality, speaking, teaching, comforting, etc.I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU CB:Pleae try to answer it directly.Does such statements in themselves prove personality?YESIf such statements in…[Read more]

We have to look at the word “God” in the way it is used in the Bible and not look at man made definitions.Part of the problem is, when we look at definitions of the word “god” today, they tend to look at the english meaning of the word today, as being the one and only supreme ….etc.When you do this, LOOK AT MAN MADE DEFINITIONS OF THIS WORD, you…[Read more]

Ciara. I'm wondering if you would like to have your very own thread. This way, if someone wants to know how you are doing, or talk to you, they could find that thread, or you can post things on that thread.Right now, you often start a new thread every time you want to say something. But this makes it hard for some to find out what you said…[Read more]

Hi Charity.While much of what you say sounds pretty, much like Catholicism being sung in Latin, it is not extraordinarily clear. So I often don't respond to things that you say. Don't take this as me ignoring you. Take it as me not knowing what you're saying.david

Quote No trinitarian denys the Sonship of Jesus. You know this!I realize that trinitarians don't deny the sonship of Jesus.I'm simply pointing out what an angel, demons, Jehovah, Jesus, John the Baptist, Nathanael, Peter, Martha, John, Paul, mockers of Jesus, an army officer who saw Jesus die, and the Jews, all believed Jesus to be: The son of…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,We know that God and His servants have all said this,but, nudge nudge, wink wink,the theologians know none of them really meant that. Hi Nick, I'm hoping that one of these times people will read those scriptures of various ones explaining who Jesus is. But Nudge nudge, wink wink, I have nothing else to say. I just like saing…[Read more]

Quote Jesus said with his own mouth that he is the first and the last and you refuse to believe him!Oh, I'm sorry. Where did Jesus clearly say that he is God Almighty? Which scripture are you speaking of anyway? (I take it this is your strongest proof, as we are discussing your inability to provide clear scriptures. So i expect this should be…[Read more]

POLYTHEISM:# the belief in more than one Deity.www.fabrisia.com/glossary1.htm# the worship of many gods.www.willdurant.com/glossary.htm# (belief in a pantheon of many deities, usually male and female), andwww.religioustolerance.org/tran_imm.htm# Believing in the existence of more than one god.www.reasoned.org/glossary.htm# Form of belief in which…[Read more]

Quote QuoteThankyou for making my point for me.davidIs that all you have!WJ, my point is that: “that's all you have.” and you made that point beautifully. I had said that the scriptures on your side, are for some reason all ambiguous in the way you are using them. When the Bible speaks of Jehovah or the Father being God, there is no question…[Read more]

Quote So what are you saying David that I should leave my interpretation and follow your interpretation.The scripture is clear, but of course you want to read into it what you want.I Jn 5:20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son…[Read more]

Quote DavidAre they?Jn1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Heb1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God…[Read more]

Quote I suppose you are gonna bring up the word Proskeneo, but remember what ever is going on toward the One who sits on the throne is also going on toward the Lamb.Now if you can show me in the verses where something different is happening to the Lamb, fine.What are you basing the last half of the first sentence on? Quote I Jn 5:20And we know…[Read more]

Quote Yes David .Few have changed their mind, but all have been challenged to think more deeply and check their doctrines according to Scripture and that is all we have to do. Changing minds is the work of the grace of God.I would like to site this as case #1 of Nick answering questions so oddly, or rather, not answering them at all, but seeming…[Read more]

Quote But FOR US there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER.Nick, you've said this a couple times. Perhaps more importantly, for the matter we are discussing, for Jesus, there is only one true God. Repeately, we are told in scriptures that Jesus has a God.In relation to Jesus, Jehovah is God. In relation to us, they both can be called Gods and they both are…[Read more]