Quote Hi david,Men becoming spirit creatures in heaven?Only the Son of Man is known to be in heaven.Is this more JW dogma? Jesus has lived in heaven for eons. He came to the earth for a very very limited amount of time for a very specific purpose. He is back in heaven now.1 THESSALONIANS 4:17“Afterward we the living who are surviving will, t…[Read more]

Quote For david. Thankyou for finding this Nick. I knew I discussed this somewhere, but had no idea I made a thread about it.dave

Sorry 94. I thought it was here. Nick, do you know where you and I used to discuss being “born again” to enter into the kingdom of God?

Nick, I can worship wherever I wish. But, in order for me to gather together with fellow believers as the Bible commands (heb 10:24) and to do so without snow on my head, it's best to use some sort of a building. And yes, Nick, God is a spirit. But we are not, so when it rains, our heads get wet. Roofs are good thing.The Bible does not agree…[Read more]

Quote david, I am rather surprised at your post. You seem to be attacking me personally like others have here. But I learned something from your behaviour and that is that those who treat me in such a way do so because they feel threatened.Ummm. No, wrong again. It is because you are having great difficulty understanding that JW's don't tithe.…[Read more]

“(1) the Torah or Law, the five books of the Pentateuch, i.e., Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy; (2) the Prophets, consisting of Joshua, Judges, First and Second Samuel, First and Second Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the Twelve (or Minor) Prophets; (3) the Writings (Hagiographa), a heterogeneous group to which belong…[Read more]

“Another Jewish term for the Jewish Bible/Old Testament is Tanakh, which is short for Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketubim, or Law, Prophets and Writings, the three major divisions of the Hebrew Bible.”–Wickipedia”In the Gospels, Jesus refers to two parts of the TaNaKh by name — the Law and the Prophets. In one verse, Jesus also mentions the Psalms, in…[Read more]

Quote Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: It's doubtful that anyone thought Jesus came to destroy the prophets, such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc.When Jesus mentioned the law and the prophets, is it not reasonable that he was referring to the how the Jews broke up the Hebrew scriptures (the first 5 books…[Read more]

Quote I don't know about others but I know that I am born again94, a lot of people “know” they are born again.Quote I believe that you are evading my questions. I'm sorry if you believe this. I have had this discusion with Nick at least a few times. It can be found in the kingdom of God thread, that I created, as well as at least one of the JW…[Read more]

An infinitely better question Seekingtruth is:”Why were the earliest Christians against birthdays”?The answer to that question is in the Bible and history.Quote After all they're good for you; the more you have, the longer you live… True enough!

Quote And so, if I am asking you David have you been born again? And David if you were to die today, are you certain that you are saved what is your response?94, most people who think they are born again, are not. I say this without the slighest hesitation. i have talken to a lot of people who believed they are born again. They vary greately in…[Read more]

T8, you state:Quote Vacuum Cleaner salesmen do the same thing. They go from door to door to sell vacuum cleaners and I know that encyclopaedia organisations like Brittanica use to as well.But guess what? Even the pharisees went to great measures to gain a convert.Right, so you say it proves nothing. But in light of what Jesus said, not being…[Read more]

Quote david, are you saying that Nick says that he wouldn't tell his neigbour the greatest news he could ever hear?It is the obvious conclusion to the meaning of your words. Did I hear you correctly? It is not the obvious conclusion to my words. Look at our conversation again. Nick was stating that not everyone need preach the good news. 'Some…[Read more]

Quote If I wanted one(book) I had to pay $16 for it at the time.the “time” that you refer to is probably 20-25 years ago.Here's the thing. You were dealing with your aunty, a family member. If anyone who wasn't a family member was dealing with you, they wouldn't have been doing what she did. Family can get away with certain things.Quote Anyway,…[Read more]

Quote Well it would be correct that JWs themselves fund the JW organisation and perhaps investments that JWs have made in business around the world. Whether JWs give a tenth, twentieth, or half their income it doesn't matter. They give to a man-made organisation that only helps to confuse people who are looking for the truth, because those who…[Read more]

Quote So whom are you obeying? JW's, including me, go to people everywhere BECAUSE of what Jesus has commanded.Saying that I am “following” JW's doesn't make sense here, because JW's are following Jesus command. That is why they share the Bible message with everyone.Quote There is a website by a former JW which may interest you:…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,So if you go knocking on doors you make enquiries about worthiness and sure they are deserving first?Jesus instructed his disciples: “Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving.” (Matthew 10:11) Not all individuals were deserving, as shown by their reaction to the Kingdom message.

Quote So the JWs are empowered by the Spirit of God because they doorknock?No. But because they have God's spirit, they can accomplish this great work that was fortold by Jesus. (mat 24:14)

Quote And those signs can still bear witness to the reality of Godand should be expected by those who work in His will. Nick, why do you continute to ignore this scripture? You haven't even commented on it. Why?HEBREWS 2:2-4“For if the word spoken through angels proved to be firm, and every transgression and disobedient act received a r…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Do you say that because you doorknock and God's Spirit helps people be the witnesses of God then that proves the JWs have the Spirit of God?It is unlikely to be true. Hello Nick. Hi. How are you? Ok, now that I have your attention, what does this scripture say:MATTHEW 24:14“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in a…[Read more]