david replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote I actually disagree. Let's test it. I just happen to have a crate of Bibles. But we can use your Bibles if you like. Now, we just need a helicoptor.considering it took a few hundred years for the 'Christians' to “figure out/create” the trinty, i find it unlikely that this tribe will do it in 10 years. Quote His trichotomous One thing is…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote I read somewhere… something like… put a dog and a cat in a cage and they will learn to live together. Put a protestant, baptist and a catholic in a cage together and all of them will be dead.A bit extravagant maybe?Not really. Put a Catholic and another Catholic in a cage and they may also be dead, literally, from one stabbing the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
1 CORINTHIANS 3:16“Do YOU not know that YOU people are God’s temple, and that the spirit of God dwells in YOU?”The “spirit of” God, not God the spirit. God's holy spirit dwells in people.
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
1 KINGS 8:27,29“But will God truly dwell upon the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, themselves cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built!. . . .’My name will prove to be there,’ to listen to the prayer with which your servant prays toward this place.”2 CORINTHIANS 6:16“And what agreement…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote No!I have had dialogue with you only for you to get in a hot spot and then slam canned writings full of WT info!I detest and loathe this type of false thinking. If you can't answer my questions, just say so. If you can't answer what you think are “canned writings” then what does that say? Regardless of where a question comes from, if YOU…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote Yet I dont remember Paul or Jesus saying to support a church as part of baptism. Sorry, I'm still not quite certain I know what you mean. Perhaps a few sentences to explain this one. Thankyuou.
david replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote Sorry Is I should explain more… what I meant was… would you still accept the bible if the Trinity doctrine wasn't there?It isn't there, and yes. I would still accept the Bible if …Listen, drop a crate of Bible's in the deepest darkest jungle in the language of a tribe that's never heard of the Bible and come back 10 years later. If…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote Or supporting the church. Yet I dont remember Paul or Jesus saying to support a church as part of baptism. Hi phoenix.(Matthew 28:19-20) “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded Y…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote No, I got your point. But you missed mine. In not answering me and just trying to sidetrack us by saying I couldn't answer you on a completely unrelated matter, you apparently are GUILTY of exactly what you accuse me of! Quote Sorry Charity, not good evidence.–Is 1:18Paul, when I asked you for the answers to my questions, you asked me…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote All these scriptures say God is in us! I dont know what your NWT glasses will show but there is One Spirit and One God and if we know him we know him by his Spirit dwelling in us which is God!Ummm. Ya. You just reposted the same post. To the nurse, the doctor says: “I am inside the heart now.” “You're in, doctor?” Yes, I, the doctor am…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote You are not open for dialogue, you completely evade scriptures that are obvious and go off on a tangent about something else!Question WJ.When am I allowed to ask those questions? When would someone like to answer them?I do not want to be accused of diverting the conversation from what we're now discussing, but I do want to ask them. When…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote Well, you may have missed the point, so let me spell it out for you. You are happy to judge the trinitarian ideas as scripturally invalid because they can't point to a verse that explicitly bears them out…..and yet when you look at some of your own WT doctrines they would also be judged as invalid by this same standard.Therefore it's a…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote Do you limit God who fills all things right down to the atoms?God is that tree over there. God is that eagle. I don't really hold to that philosophy. God created everything. He put spirit into living creatures. But God himself isn't inside the eagle.
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote Then please show me what these scriptures mean!They mean what you think they mean, that God's spirit is inside people, NOT GOD THE SPIRIT, but God's holy spirit.God's spirit, like the doctors finger can be inside someone and we can speak of God (like the doctor) as being in someone, but we realize that it is his finger or God's finger, his…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote There is no discussion with you!I have repeated these questions because I haven't gotten answers. It is a fallacy on your part to try to connect the Watchtower to these questions.Question: If these questions were from the Watchtower and you can't answer them, what does that mean?Quote You are not open for dialogueNo, I'm quite open to…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote What are the biggest flaws in the trinity doctrine as you see it?Would you like them alphabetically?I guess it's complete lack of existence in the Bible is a big one.
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote All these scriptures say God is in us! I dont know what your NWT glasses will show but there is One Spirit and One God and if we know him we know him by his Spirit dwelling in us which is God!oh, i see. Because God's holy spirit dwells in people and since we are told that God dwells in people, you connect the two to mean that God=his…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Quote 1 Jn 4:4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.1 Jn 4:12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.1 Jn 4:15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
Now, back to MY QUESTION.We can and have discussed your question in the appropriate thread for weeks at a time. As I've said, my questions are invisible. The fact that you think you saw them doesn't prove you did. Did you see them? Are you saying you're basing your belief on something similar to my beliefs? Because I'm quite certain you have…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 7 months ago
PHIL 2:9; IS 52:13; ACTS 2:33; EPH 1:20,21; HEB 7:26; 1 PET 3:22; MAT 28:18; 1 COR 15:25; PS 2:6; 110:1; IS 9:6; HEB 1:13; ROM 8:34*Heb 1:4 * Heb 1:9; ps 45:7
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