I guess you're going to get only silence and sidetracking and no actual answers to your unanswerable questions WIT. I assume that's because they have no answers from a trinitarian perspective.Looking at just one of those things:MARK 13:32““Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Fat…[Read more]

Quote the punishment for someone other than God to use the sacred “I AM” is stoning (Lev. 24:16). So the other 1500 times or so that the words “I am” occur in the Bible…these ones should have been stoned?Quote Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man,…[Read more]

Quote In John 8:58 Jesus did not use the form “I have been” in the Greek, but used the form “I am.” It does not make good grammar to say “Before Abraham was I am”. –Cult BusterRight, CB, it don't make for good grammer.That's why newer Bibles that aren't so slanted in their trinitarian beliefs that they will forsake “good grammer” translate it…[Read more]

Quote Jesus is referred to in scripture as Almighty God.Cult Buster, certainly nowhere is “Jesus” or “Christ” specifically called “Almighty.” I have already explained this to you in the Alpha and Omega thread, where you refuse to discuss this EXACT subject with me. So your words are meaningless if you can't actually communicate with…[Read more]

HELLO, GUYS. FOCUS!This has just turned into one of the other 14 trinity threads where everyone discusses whatever they like about the trinity.The theme of this thread, which isn't really discussed elsewhere, and therefore actually deserving of our attention is: Elohim, what does it mean?Secondarily, I asked what it means that others are called…[Read more]

A question I don't think I got an answer to.Similarly, speaking of Catholics, The Belgian newspaper “La Dernière Heure” relates that during the war Roman Catholic Cardinal Amette of Paris said this to the French soldiers:“My brothers, comrades of the French army and of their glorious allies, the Almighty God is on our side. . . . God is near to ou…[Read more]

Quote Hi Nick,No, my creed is from the Bible and is based on the words of Jesus, “I am the first and the last.”See the Alpha and Omega thread for what the Bible does and doesn't say on this.

There is a distinction between the Father, our God, and Jesus, who is called our Lord in 1 Cor 8, as Nick points out.We notice that it's never the other way around. Jesus is never the God of Jehovah, but repeatedly, we're told that Jesus has a God, his Father.Should we not worship the God of Jesus?Should we not worship whom Jesus indicated we…[Read more]

While looking at the word “god” or “gods” we might as well look at the plural of majesty:”The Hebrew word ’elo·him′ (gods) appears to be from a root meaning “be strong.” ’Elo·him′ is the plural of ’eloh′ah (god). Sometimes this plural refers to a number of gods (Ge 31:30, 32; 35:2), but more often it is used as a plural of majesty, dignity, or…[Read more]

Quote Excellent! –Is 1:18Ummm. Not really. It didn't address any of my questions and didn't look at the word “god” as it is used as a whole. It left many things unanswered.

Quote What is the fruit of anti-Trinitarians? What churches to they go to? What fellowship do they have?Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the trinity. They fellowship together all the time all over the world. (Heb 10:24)

Quote Yes, when Christ is asked, “Are you the Messiah,” and he replies, “I am,” I can see how that would indicate that He's the Messiah. tim2, please explain that to Cult Buster for me. He believes it's a hidden message, as he does of the other instance as well.Quote Which of the “gods” in Psalm 82 is called one with the Father? John 17:20-22…[Read more]

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Tim 2, you stated in the trinity thread:Quote David,There is no definition of “god” in the Bible. Some other than YHWH are occasionally called gods. But we are told emphatically, YHWH is the only God. YHWH is our only God. Isaiah 43:10, 44:6, 44:8, 45:5, 45:14, 45:21, 45:22, 46:9. So I will affirm this without equivocation: YHWH is the only…[Read more]

Quote I find it odd that you are arguing that there are other gods we should consider besides YHWH.Um. I'm not. I have repeatedly said that those false gods are “no gods.”But I am arguing that we should actually consider how the Bible actually portrays that word and how it uses that word to the full so we can actually understand what that word…[Read more]

Hi Kenrch, here is your “bunny rabbits” thread from last year. I find that if you do a search of “easter” for example, you'll find the threads that have already been started and don't have to create very similar threads, which in my opinion only makes it harder to find stuff.

Quote All other so called gods are not gods at all or they are false.Are the angels mighty? Maybe that's why they are called gods.Were the human Israelite judges mighty? Compared to the other Israelites. Maybe that's why they rightfully were called gods.Were the gods of wood mighty ones? No. Maybe that's why they are false gods.Is Jesus a…[Read more]

Quote He says there is no such gods. To us there is but “ONE GOD”.(Jeremiah 2:11) “Has a nation exchanged gods, even for those that are no gods? (Isaiah 37:19) “And there was a consigning of their gods to the fire, because they were no gods, but the workmanship of man’s hands, wood and stone, so that they destroyed them.”(Jeremiah 16:20) “Can ea…[Read more]

Quote Besides YHWH there is no god.Isaiah 44:6, 8, 45:5, 21, 46:9″Jesus is too called a God.” No, he's called God. And there's only one, YHWH.Right Tim, beside Jehovah there is no god. And the angels are called gods. What does this mean? I think we have to have a better sense of what the word “god” means to understand this.Besides Jehovah,…[Read more]

Quote That's impressive writing David. Did you write this post yourself? I don't believe you mean these words.The truth is, I have no idea which of these words I wrote or changed. Most likely, it is a compolation of 10 or 15 articles. I know some of it came from Sammo or an earlier post by Sammo or Sammo's website (the different renderings in…[Read more]