Quote There is one very common error that most people tend to make, and that is to assume that True Statements are, also, true when applied in the reverse order. And while it is sometimes true, it is rarely true.True Examples:(1) Black is the opposite of white, and thus white is the opposite of black. (TRUE)(2) The Righteous are like Yahweh in…[Read more]

CB, see:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=280″…the Word was a god,' a translation which is GRAMMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE…””totally indefensible.”….YOu also quote dr. William barcley, who at times has also said that “and the Word was a god,” is “grammatically impossible.” (Yet in his book Jesus as They Saw Him(SCM Paperback, 1962, p.21)he…[Read more]

CB, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you? Not a clue?You type: “Find stuff against JW's” in the internet and out it comes. Well done. Let's actually discuss this, if you can. Let's look at what one of them said, Bruce Metzger. In “Theology Today” 10.1(April 1953), p.75, Metzger wrote;”As a matter of solid fact,…,such a…[Read more]

I found this extremely interesting.http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworl….1.1.htmD.Wallace in his “Grammar Beyond The Basics” wrote in regards the rendering QEOS EN HO LOGOS(lit., “god was the word”) as “the Word was a god”:”a. Is theos in John 1:1c Indefinite?”If theos were indefinite, we would translate it “a god” (as is done in the New…[Read more]

Quote Once again David, we go round in circles. As I said before, I don't see the point because you have made up your mind and we all know that there are none so blind as them that will not see. If you don't have answers to my questions because your belief doesn't have answers, just say so. I understand. In fact, I'm not sure you can even “see”…[Read more]

Quote Tell me, why does Jesus and the Scriptures continually refer to the Holy Spirit as “He”?How can the Father send the Holy Spirit if the Holy Spirit and the Father are one and the same?How can the Holy Spirit be offended if not an identity?How can the Holy Spirit comfort, discern, teach etc if not an identity?I could go on but it seems…[Read more]

Quote Tell me, why does Jesus and the Scriptures continually refer to the Holy Spirit as “He”?Tell me, does the Bible every refer to inanimate things using figures of speech, such as personification? (Yes, without question.)Tell me, Does the Bible ever say: “the holy spirit is my God,” or “holy spirit the God” or “the holy spirit my God”?Expr…[Read more]

The following is taken from:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworl…..43.htm“'You are my witnesses,' is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that you may know and have faith in me, and that you may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none.…[Read more]

In another thread, he said he's been gone for a week. Where, I don't know.

The following taken from here:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworl….1.1.htmAs it might be thought that what Dr BeDuhn has written regarding how best to render QEOS EN HO LOGOS as “the Word was divine” and this somehow undermines the rendering of “the Word was a god” and even obviates the Witnesses 'use' of Dr BeDuhn regarding the New…[Read more]

Quote According to Scripture, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. In like manner the Word (Jesus), is the Word of God.It is God's spirit, the holy spirit.It is God's Son, Jesus Christ.The Father is the God of Jesus.Jesus Christ is not a possession of the holy spirit.The holy spirit is something that is God's, and that is used by him and his…[Read more]

In the expression “the Word was God” in the original Greek, the word for “God” does not have the definite article “the.” In the earlier expression “the Word was with God,” the word for “God” is definite, that is, it does have the definite article. This makes it unlikely that the two words have the same significance.Hence, some translations bring…[Read more]

There's also an “about pharma online” post.Quote The only time you are taken to the last post is when you click on the links in the “Last Post Info” column. I usually go there as I would assume most regular members do get the latest.I have no idea where this is. “the last posts info” column.I always go to “new posts” and then I open a post and it…[Read more]

Quote or”theios, 2 Pet 1:3,4, which by the way is used by Peter for divine nature and power, which many try to force this word to mean that we are equal to Yeshua or the Father in being. Yeshua *is* divine, “Theos”, not “Theios” which is what we share”, This word is found only these 3 times in scripture. Which describes his nature and not his…[Read more]

Taken from:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworldtranslation/hebrews1.8.htmHi cubes. I'm not completely certain what your plan was for this thread, but I imagine it's already fallen apart. So I'm just going to post “whatever” as most I believe are probably doing.The New World Translation reads here:“But with reference to the Son: “God is…[Read more]

Quote Isn't it amazing how the smallest word can render Scripture useless. And the Word was A god. How dare they take that away from Jesus who suffered and died for us? Who also rose again from the dead and is coming again. How dare they? NOT JUST “A GOD,” LIKE OTHER “gods”The NWT Translation Committee recognized that the noun “theos” was pri…[Read more]

In 1933 E.C.Colwell published an article in the Journal of Biblical Literature, Vol.52, p.20: “A Definite Rule for the Use of the Article in the Greek New Testament.” It came to known as 'Colwell's Rule.'Colwell's Rule is: “A definite predicate nominative has the article when it follows the verb; it does not have the article when it precedes…[Read more]

Quote I think at the minimal level it proves that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have the same Name. It definitely doesn't “prove” that. Perhaps this is why you say at a “minimal level it proves” this.Quote But that alone is proof that they are one God, for we all agree that the Name of the Father is the Name of God. In the name of my Father,…[Read more]

I think John 1:1 is a pretty interesting scripture. I think it's a central scripture used in proving the trinity belief.So, let's discuss it.I do not claim to be an authority on Greek, but here goes.I'm putting the following down to save people time with words like “anarthrous.”EN ARKHEI EN HO LOGOS, KAI HO LOGOSIN…[Read more]

Quote Hi Nick,Actually He did. Matthew 28:19.Which aspect of the trinity doest his prove?It does prove that you can count to three, I know.but really, what does it actually prove, other than that three are listed together.Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are listed together far more times. Does this prove a trinity?Please explain exactly what this…[Read more]