Quote Many people are confused about the Jehovah’s Witnesses. — quote from WJHe also quotes this: Quote Therefore, since they deny that Jesus is divine, they have altered the Bible in John 1:1 so that Jesus is not divine in nature. The New World Translation has added the word “a” to the verse so it says, “…and the Word was a god.” 1. We d…[Read more]

There is no “a” (indefinite article) in the Greek language.Therefore, if you simply state that we added an “a” in John 1:1, you might as well also state that all Bible's have done this countless times!There is no indefinite article (“a”) but there is a definite article (“the”) and it's missing from being before the “theos” (God) in question.

Quote Look around! There are more on this sight that dont believe in your false religion and your cultish Bible the NWT, than there are those who are not trinitarians.So that leaves you as the “Elite” right? You are always right, and your religion is the only religion thats right and your NWT is the only true translation.And only the 144000, JWs…[Read more]

Quote Isnt that what this is all about David? You come here to promote watchtower not to sincerely discuss John 1:1.—WJYou are admittedly biased towards the NWT and JW's as well. It isn't me who is discussing JW's, but you. You are often guilty of the very thing you falsely accuse me of. It's frustrating.The reason I started discussing this…[Read more]

Quote If when the predicate nominative precedes the verb and subject in Greek as it is the case here, the predicate nominative (in this case “theos”) it cannot grammatically have a definite article. If it did have a definite article, then its position in the sentence would make it the subject of the sentence.Also however, when the predicate…[Read more]

Is 1:18, you stated:”I think you are reading too much into 2 Peter 1:4 David….. And certainly the semantic range of “koinonos” does encompass the idea of participating, or fellowshipping in, something……”Of course you would think I am reading too much into a scripture that completely disproves what you believe. I would expect no less Is…[Read more]

The KJV is a completely non-credible translation. I'm putting it on my non-credible translation list because it translated a word differently than the other Bibles. (((I should mention that I'm showing how some people reason. I do not endorse the above statement))))I would suggest anyone who has it on their credible translation list (WJ) and…[Read more]

CB, you state incorrectly:Quote John 1:1 in a literal translation reads thus: “In beginning was the word, and the word was with the God, and God was the word.”Notice that it says “God was the word.” This is the actual word for word translation. It is not saying that “a god was the word.” But then you show the actual words in Greek:“and God was the…[Read more]

Quote But I think the critical issue then becomes, whether or not God's nature is entirely unique to Him, or if angels and believers share in it? Hi Tim2May 14th, this thread, Is 1:18 said: “My answer is yes. Only a divine being can have a divine nature.”Jehovah is a “divine being” the “divine one” so according to Is 1:18, God has a divine nat…[Read more]

Quote DavidYou say…–WJQuote You follow the crowd WJ. I will miss you.–meQuote Miss me! I never was in yoiur camp.–WJI know you were never in my camp, WJ.(Psalm 91:7) “A thousand will fall at your very side And ten thousand at your right hand; To you it will not come near.What I meant was simply that the majority (you) usually tend to be w…[Read more]

Quote But if you believe so much in it then why use other translations here.Why not quote exclusively from it so others can judge it?I usually do. If I quote something and don't say which Bible, it is the NWT.For the second time, the reasons I sometimes use other Bibles is because the charge is often made that we have “our own” Bible and base our…[Read more]

Quote It does not stack against all the other major translations, and is rejected.–WJBy whom? You? You're biased, remember?

Quote You are right. I am biased to the NWT— WJI think your bias is getting in the way of your ability to use your reasoning abilities.

Quote Hi W,So if the scholars are few and scattered then they are wrongjust because they are not following the majority view?–NickWJ:Quote NHWhy dont you take up the task then?Show me why over 600 scholars should be mistrusted.YOUR REASONING IS SIMPLY ABSURD!!!!Listen, there are hundreds of people on here who don't believe the…[Read more]

Quote Christians have been following and believing John 1:1 as it is written for centurys.–WJYes, they have. (2 Timothy 4:3-4) “For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they w…[Read more]

Quote You do realise that by citing an apologetic writing that argues for a qualitative rendering of the predicate noun “theos” in the last clause of John 1:1 you are effectively arguing against the NWT rendering (which is indefinite), don't you?–Is 1:18No, not at all. Please look a little closer at the post I quoted, noting the last sentence.…[Read more]

Unbelievably, it's 2:47. I'll be back.

Is 1:18, I've been looking at some of the quotes you quoted earlier, in 2005. I think you may misunderstand my beliefs slightly.

Ah, first my question:Quote David, can I have your definition for “divine” please? And can you also tell me if you believe there is than one divine being? I'm trying to get a handle on your view here. Thanks.–Is 1:18godlike or heavenly.QuoteAnd can you also tell me if you believe there is than one divine being?Question: Is a being that has…[Read more]

Notice he said: “And the Word was a god” OR “And the Word was divine.” I can, if pressed, explain at length why these two translations amount to the same thing FOR JOHN. The truth is, there doesn't seem to be an absolute perfect way to translate this verse, given the difference in thought and language with English and Greek. But these two…[Read more]