Quote I appreciate your reply, NickHowever, man does not have a soul, he is a soul. And if you believe man has a soul, then you must also believe that the soul that sinneth, it shall die; Ez. 18:20 ; Mat. 10:28, andRom. 6:23, also in Acts 3:23. There is nothing immortal in or about man, only God is immortal; 1Tim. 6:16.I know this is getting a bit…[Read more]

Robert Young:”lit. 'and a God (i.e. a Divine being) was the Word”Notice that Robert Young, who wrote “Young's Concise Commentary”,admits that the most normal, “literal” way to translate John 1:1c is to callthe Word “a God”, not “God”. It should be remembered regarding the NWTthat it is a “literal” translation. So the NWT, which is a “literal”…[Read more]

I found the following quite interesting:It's taken from the botten half of this page, and it's easier to read there:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworldtranslation/babylon1.htm“Jehovah's Witnesses and John 1:1–Who's telling the truth?”There are some who would like us to believe that the rendering of John 1:1 offered in the NWT is a…[Read more]

Quote And Isaiah, your emails have really meant a lot to me. If I were going to reconsider the Trinity, I would listen to you both. I have researched websites given by both of you, and I have seriously pondered many posts you have written. Hi Not3in1,I'm going to give you a link to what I consider a very good website. In truth, it is just a…[Read more]

Quote nd the following scripture I believe refers to the same person:“even now are there many antichrists.”So, the antichrist isn't one person, but can be anyone or any group that opposes Christ.

There is already a topic on whether people go to heaven. You'll find some discussion in it.

“anti”–“against, opposite or opposing, and contrary.” “not in favor of.” “opposed to something.” Hi IM4,While agreeing that there are many who do not teach the truth and that these are anti-Christ's in that they teach “against” what Jesus taught, I believe the word “anti” suggests that these ones are “against” Christ in some way.YOu…[Read more]

Quote So what your saying, David, is that you cannot identify even one ante-nicene christian group that had commonality in theology with the WT.Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote. Before Christ, there were true worshippers of Jehovah. While Christ was on earth, there were true worshippers of Jehovah and followers of Christ. (Christians)ACTS…[Read more]

A moment after I wrote that, I remembered:Will durant states:“Celsus himself had sarcastically observed that Christians were ‘split up into ever so many factions, each individual desiring to have his own party.’ About 187 Irenaeus listed twenty varieties of Christianity; about 384 Epiphanius counted eighty.”—The Story of Civilization: Part III—…[Read more]

Is 1:18, I may have asked this before, but are you with any organized Christian group? Or are you all alone? If not, which group?Catholic?That was a joke.(I still can't find that reference I was looking for. It shows how the “Christians” were split up into so many sects so very early in history, and how amazingly quicky the fortold apostasy was…[Read more]

Quote His true church his body has never died or been snuffed out, but has been alive and well since the day of Penticost.WJ, there have always been witnesses of Jehovah. But it wasn't until the last days of this world that Jesus words would be fulfilled:MATTHEW 24:14“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth f…[Read more]

Quote I have nothing but respect for the ladies that “work” our neighborhood They were the ones who first shared with me that the Trinity wasn't true! I may not be a converted JW (in fact I am a spiritual mis-fit, I'm afraid), but I do thank them for giving me that truth. Hi Not3in1.All true followers of Christ are misfits, as you say. They…[Read more]

Quote Who are the predecessors of the JWs?A GREAT LINE OF WITNESSESAccording to the Bible, the line of witnesses of Jehovah reaches back to faithful Abel. Hebrews 11:4–12:1 says: “By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain . . . By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear . . .…[Read more]

Quote Hi David. When Jesus did not appear in 1914, why did the Jehovah's Witnessses change the date several times after that?Are you saying we don't believe Jesus presense began in 1914, Cult Guy?It is true that we were expecting more all at once. Because of our eagerness, we have hoped for the new system earlier than Jehovah’s timetable has c…[Read more]

Is it John 1:1?I have my counter arguments ready.You earlier quoted this world “renowned expert” as you called him as saying:Philip B. Harner: “Perhaps the clause could be translated, 'the Word had the same nature as God.” This would be one way of representing John's thought, which is, as I understand it, that ho logos, no less than ho theos,…[Read more]

Quote As I said before, you say that to someone and they will lock you up for being irrational. No one said the trinity was rational. Well, I'm sure someone did, but they weren't being reasonable.

The Greek word from which “presence” is translated is pa·rou·si′a, formed from pa·ra′ (alongside) and ou·si′a (being; derived from ei·mi′, meaning “be”). Hence, pa·rou·si′a means, literally, “being alongside,” that is, a “presence.”Many translations vary their renderings of this word. While translating pa·rou·si′a as “presence” in some texts…[Read more]

Kench's words:Quote David if I'm not mistaken Jesus came back in 1914 and started World War 1. I think that's what the International Bible students teach. They do have the same teacher as the JWs~Charles Tazz Russell~. I believe they teach that Jesus is controling everything from the atmosphere. All those signs are being brought about by…[Read more]

What is the purpose of Jesus “sign” of his presence? (Mat 24)

T8, if you go back and look at the last post you wrote on here, you quoted me, who said: “Again, you are arguing against something we do not believe.”You quoted me saying this, then you went on to again argue against something we do not believe.Let me say this again.We believe Jesus PRESENCE began in 1914, NOT his coming.