Quote No, houses are designed and built.Most are. But couldn't one arise by chance? And if not, why?

The principal steps en route to the origin of life, as envisioned by evolutionary theory, are (1) the existence of the right primitive atmosphere and (2) a concentration in the oceans of an organic soup of “simple” molecules necessary for life. (3) From these come proteins and nucleotides (complex chemical compounds) that (4) combine and acq…[Read more]

Quote E.g., saying that DNA of an ape is mostly similar to a human and therefore deriving that we came from Apes is still imagination. You could also argue equally that it only proves that the ape and humans came from the same programmer. All programmers reuse code and even this page you are looking at is just code with a HTML interpreter to make…[Read more]

Quote Why does there HAVE to be a designer??I could stare at the house on the other side of the street and ask the same question. It's quite possible that if there were billions of years of time everything possible would happen right? That house across the street would come together in just that way, as though designed, and yet, by accident.The…[Read more]

Quote All fossils are transitional forms. Even if we had no fossils at all, the evidence written in modern DNA provides all you need to show common ancestry.I've notice you said this “all fossils are transitional forms” a few times.We have fossil 1 which looks nothing like fossil 8.Fossil 1 seems to be an entirely different kind of creature than…[Read more]

Quote You don't need much more that gravity to explain the arrangement of bodies in space. Aren't the four forces of nature (gravity, electromagnetism, strong neucler force and weak neucler force) so precisely finely tuned.What if any of these forces were .001% stronger or weaker. Could the universe even exist? Could any universe exist? It…[Read more]

I have a question Stu.What would you say to the scientists, those who specialize in one field (maybe they've studied bird wings for their whole life, or the human mind, or the eyeball) and see what they consider to be design and attribute that design to a designer. What would you say to them, the scientists that are on the fence?

Quote It is not obvious to me that “intelligence designed and made the universe”. What is obvious is that humans have an evolutionary advantage in looking for and finding patterns, even when there are no real patterns to be found. Yes, putting human skulls on chimp skeletons and putting them in museums for 7 decades. It is true that people look…[Read more]

Quote As you are so keen on bible as fact, perhaps you can explain as Nick couldn't, how the Kiwi got from Mt. Ararat to Mt. Taranaki after the alleged flood.Let's let scientists (oceanographers) help us answer this one.The findings of oceanographers indicate that at one time land ridges connected what are now isolated land areas. For example,…[Read more]

Quote Who created these things? Why was there a beginning at all? What or who caused it? If there is an effect, then there is a cause. Isn't that a scientific principle? Isn't it a law? What existed before the universe to cause this “effect”? It would seem to have to be something or someone with lots of energy.Stu, Wasn't it less than a…[Read more]

Quote Is 24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.Turn it upside down? how do you turn a sphere upside down? Especially when there is no such thing as up or down in space? Poetical or science?Like a bowl that is turned upside down, allowing all…[Read more]

Quote You equate Gen 1:1 to the Big Bang. The Earth was NOT produced from the Big Bang IN THE BEGINNING. It came about billions of years later.Yes, but the matter, everything that makes up the universe was created then, in the beginning. That's what I've said over and over. The word “create” is different than the word “make” which was used…[Read more]

Quote But if Jesus had a beginning(which he says he does in this passage)then he has not always existed.Therefore he/Jesuscannot be everlasting(except for that part of him that is the Father).Humans are promised life everlasting.Everlasting, for ever, immortality. None of these things mean you can't have a beginning. They mean you can't have an…[Read more]

Quote ++”On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth. The rotating earth thus began to have alternating day and night. (Genesis 1:1-3, 5) The sources of that light still remained invisible from the earth. During the fourth creative period, however, a notable cha…[Read more]

Quote David, from your list, science disagrees with:Earth before sun.Earth before seasons.Gases before atmosphere.Light before sun and stars.Plants before sun.If tame means domesticated, then tame beasts before man.I'm sorry STU, but I don't know that you read any of my post.Where did I say: “earth before sun.”Notice “(1) a beginning.”Remember…[Read more]

Geologist Wallace Pratt commented: “If I as a geologist were called upon to explain briefly our modern ideas of the origin of the earth and the development of life on it to a simple, pastoral people, such as the tribes to whom the Book of Genesis was addressed, I could hardly do better than follow rather closely much of the language of the first c…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,Is God not a greater KING?Yes Nick, this has been my whole point. We cannot include God in the group that we are looking at. Otherwise, he and Jesus would both fit (both of them at least being immortal.)So, therefore, logically, we are speaking of a specific group (that doesn't include everyone) as I mentioned previously.

Hi Stu.I've been so busy. you wrote:Quote Hi David, I have had trouble keeping up with the screeds you posted. Would you mind if we deal with issues just a few at a time?Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the…[Read more]

Quote Thanks, David, I'll look forward to your response.It is unwise of anyone or group to form a doctrinal belief on one scripture…… Especially a scripture that has many interpretations. But I am open to what you will share. See you next time. While I do have time to respond to Nick, I just don't have the time right now to do even 5…[Read more]

Quote Are you not putting the verse within a context that is simply not there?Why not leave it as is and let it be readas written? No, I am not. Let's look at the words:only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortalityHe is the “only” potentate, above other kings, above other lords, he alone having immortality.Is…[Read more]