Right. So, it's not a Hebrew word then. We're agreed.

I've been studying this for a while.These are some versions (transliterations and translations) of the divine name. YHVH YHWH Yahweh Yahveh Yaveh Yaweh Jehova Jehovah Jahova Jahovah Yahova Yahovah Yahowah Jahowa Jahowah Yahavah Jahavah Yahowe Yahoweh Jahaveh Jahaweh Yahaveh Yahaweh Jahuweh Yahuweh Jahuwah Yahuwah Yahuah Yah Jah Yahu Yahoo…[Read more]

Sorry, I forgot that you believe heaven means “earth” here. Very convenient.

Quote Is Michael and his Messengers OUR BROTHERS?Since this battle happens in heaven, they are spirit messengers (ie: angels)And, no in scripture, the angels aren't really ever called “our brothers.” Nor in scripture are they said to witness.When John was referring to “our brothers” whose witness work conquered Satan, just maybe he was referring…[Read more]

Quote And Hovah is a Hebrew word for: The Hovah part of Je-hovah means RUIN and MISCHIEF in Hebrew, Is Jehovah a Hebrew word Mike? No.

Do you know how Jesus’ family and friends addressed him in day-to-day conversation while he was growing up in Nazareth? The truth is, no human knows for certain, although it may have been something like Yeshua (or perhaps Yehoshua). It certainly was not Jesus.However, when the accounts of his life were written in the Greek language, the inspired w…[Read more]

Quote The Hovah part of Je-hovah means RUIN and MISCHIEF in Hebrew, according to Strong's Concordance #1943. Hovah is another form form #1942; RUIN and MISCHIEF. Except “Jehovah” isn't Hebrew.??So…It's like saying what does the “sus” part of Jesus mean? Jesus isn't a Hebrew name either.

The Codex Leningrad B 19A, of the 11th century C.E., vowel points the Tetragrammaton to read Yehwah′, Yehwih′, and Yeho·wah′. Ginsburg’s edition of the Masoretic text vowel points the divine name to read Yeho·wah′. (Ge 3:14, ftn) Hebrew scholars generally favor “Yahweh” as the most likely pronunciation. They point out that the abbreviated form of…[Read more]

Quote the bible does not anywhere specifically state that there would be 66 books and 66 books only, so just getting hung up on the fact that nowhere does the word “trinity” appear in the scriptures is just shallow reasoning, and not only shallow, but arbitrary,–eppyI agree. It's not strong reasoning. It wasn't the point I was making though.…[Read more]

Quote And 'smite' can mean to casually shoulder-massage a person, in a loving way. Ok, let's begin simply: the Bible wasn't written in english. It wasn't the word “jealous” that was written. It was a word that can mean jealous. But, if you're at all familiar with languages, which I'm no so certain you are, you might be aware that not all…[Read more]

Quote Simply put, the word “Heaven” means place or places. No, that's not what it means. It can refer to different places: spritual heavens, physical heavens, human rulerships, etc, but it doesn't mean “place or places.”Do you not give any notice to the scriptures I showed which make extremely plain who the “our brothers” are that had the work of…[Read more]

Quote but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven (in Genesis God calls the earth heaven) any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels (messengers) were cast out with him.–mikeIn brackets you say (in…[Read more]

Quote Do we really want another Trinity thread?There's already 30 or 40.

Quote If the subject is about Michael and his Messengers then THEY are the THEY being talked about. Did you see another set of charactors being talked about? I did not see another set of charactors being talked about. Hmmmm Did you see the words “Our brethren” or “our brothers.” the accuser of OUR BRETHREN, who accused THEM before our God day…[Read more]

Quote Do you think he is called JEALOUS because he isn't human, just like Pinocchio?Stuart Of course the english word “jealous” usually has negative connotation, but it was translated from the Hebrew and Greek words that carry a wide range of meanings. They can have either a positive or a negative connotation, depending on how the words are used.…[Read more]

Quote Basically the argument that Jesus is Michael has about as much support as Jesus being Gabriel.No, there's pretty much no evidence for that.But for some time, people have seen evidence for God changing Michael's name to Jesus (for his role on earth) as he often does when someone takes on a new role in his service.Scholar, John A. Lees…[Read more]

Quote The Holy Spirit is referred to as the comforter and the helper, because that is what the Holy Spirit does, and yes he is referred to as a “he”, but show me a scripture that says he is a person, or a being. The fact that the B i b l e does not explicitly MENTION, EXPLAIN, or TEACH a trinity is in itself strong proof that the trinity teaching…[Read more]

Quote ummm I agree.ummm?Quote Rev 12:11. They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. Putting part of it in bold does not explain who the “they” are.Notice who the “they” are, once again:“Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our…[Read more]

Quote What of the question which I have posed all too often, getting no reply at all, about what it is that you know that I cannot possibly know as a non-believer?“the peace of God that excels all thought….” Phil 4:7

I'm just wondering how they would respond?