Quote and therefore we are the evil one, the evil ruler of the world. So you're suggesting every person is the “RULER” of the world.That doesn't really make sense. Billions of rulers. Who do they rule over? Themselves I guess. The scriptures speak of “the ruler of the world.” I do not believe “ruler” is plural.Quote Your not CHOOSING to…[Read more]

Quote http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10002.htmlThere's an interesting video on that page about JW's and blood.

Quote The Gathas tell us that God wants us to question and to seek. He gave us “vohu manah” which means 'good mind” or “good thinking”.He might have “given” it to us as you say, but if that is so, why is it that no one seems to know it exists. My thinking is that God would be impartial and just and allow everyone the opportunity and chance to…[Read more]

Sorry, Jodi, I made my post before reading more of your posts on that page.

Quote What does the bible tell us specifically that has rule and dominion over us?We are constantly told that we are slaves of sin.–jodi, page 71This is an interesting idea. It's quite clever really.The Bible does say things like “just as SIN RULED AS KING with death…” (Rom 5:21)So you would take scriptures like this as referring to sin:JOHN…[Read more]

Quote One thing that David said that has stuck to my mind is that his understanding of Satan is that even though he can influence us without us knowing it we are still responsible for allowing that influence to cause us to sin. If we think about David's own words, then we see then from his perspective that man is still the one to be identified as…[Read more]

For the flip side of the argument, Malcom makes some interesting points starting on this page:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=410

When Saul went to the medium, Jehovah’s spirit had for some time been removed from him, and in fact, God would not answer his inquiries by means of dreams or by the Urim (used by the high priest) or by the prophets. (1Sa 28:6) God would have no more to do with him; and God’s prophet Samuel had not seen Saul for a long period of time, from bef…[Read more]

Saul died for being unfaithful to Jehovah, partly because he did this disgusting thing of consulting a spirit medium. (1 chron 10:13,14)Jehovah had already cut off help to Saul. So this message from whoever or whatever was certainly not from Jehovah. (Plus, the message was inaccurate. So, it wasn't from God.)This spirit medium, or witch, this…[Read more]

Adding a response I gave to Nick:”Saul had removed himself, far from God.Realizing that he is abandoned by Jehovah God, he turns to witchcraft, which he had at the beginning banned from his kingdom.YOU said that Saul “knew” it was Samuel. Well, your Bible says that Saul PERCEIVED that it was Samuel. He perceived this based completely on what the…[Read more]

Nick and I had a lengthy discussion on this on page 40 of the “soul” thread, here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=390

Quote Nick tell me ONE time when I have said that I do not believe in evil spirits. Why must be a devil?I have ALWAYS believed in evil spirits, I just don't believe in YOUR definition of them.Perhaps, it would help if you'd explian.

Quote The OT warns man time and time again not to believe in false gods and demons because they cannot see, hear or walk and they certainly do not have any powers. –JODIcheck verse 26:MATTHEW 12:25-26“Knowing their thoughts, he said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself comes to desolation, and every city or house divided against its…[Read more]

WHO IS THE RULER OF THE WORLD?WHO DID JESUS REFER TO AS THE RULER OF THE WORLD?WHO?ANYONE?HE SAID IT LIKE 3 TIMES.WHAT WAS HE REFERRING TO?ANYONE?I GUESS NOT.

In the beginning, God said: “Let US make man in OUR image.” Jesus was in the beginning and “with God.”Who was he speaking to when he said this at the beginning of the creation of the universe?“This one was in the beginning with God.” And“All things came into existence through him.”Of course, the Bible does say God is king of eternity, and h…[Read more]

Quote God said that with his own hand he marked out and laid the foundations.Again, I'd like to actually see the scripture. What I do know is that Jehovah's “arm” and “finger” are his spirit. And I know that Jesus would ask for God's spirit when performing miracles. Question:If a bazillionaire decides to build a building, and he has someone…[Read more]

Quote God himself said that he was ALONE when he laid the foundations of the world. ALONE! If Jesus was there, he sure didn't get any credit. Mandy, Of course there is a scripture that says something like this. I'm wondering which one it is. Could you please name it?

Quote If the Word became flesh, what was he before that? A spirit.

Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 03 2008,16:13)Quote (david @ Sep. 02 2008,11:41)Quote bible says One God created this whole universe and there was no one else besides Him at that time. I'm wondering where it says this, Gollamudi?In the beginning, God said: “Let US make man in OUR image.” Jesus was in the beginning and “with God.” Who was he speakin…[Read more]

Quote There is not one single reference to a spirit in the bible as representing some self aware being who hates God and has it out for mankind and can jump in and out of people. –jodiMATTHEW 8:31“So the demons began to entreat him, saying: “If you expel us, send us forth into the herd of swine.””Does this indicate self-awareness? Does it indi…[Read more]