Quote Why can't we have governments with that kind of foresight today? They do.  JW's are presently banned in several countries.  We're not legally allowed to preach or congregate in many countries.  Quote And while they are at it they could improve the privacy laws to include door-knocking by JWs and other obscure christian sects like the LDS.  <…[Read more]

We can start building Gods kingdom WITHIN US.–lineon.Notice who it is that is setting up this kingdom:REVELATION 1:6“and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father.”REVELATION 5:9,10:“you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God.”Do we place these people (the kingdom) inside of us?Just as people make up a government and are…[Read more]

“The kingdom of heaven is within us already.”–Morning StarHi MS.I'm not so much a believer that the kingdom is “in” his people, as his people are “in” the kingdom and are the kingdom.REVELATION 1:6“and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father.”REVELATION 5:9,10:“you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God.”Just as peop…[Read more]

Hi WJ.I don't think I ever noticed your post before.Quote Do you believe the Kingdom is future or has it already come and begun IN HIS PEOPLE?I'm not so much a believer that the kingdom is “in” his people, as his people are “in” the kingdom and are the kingdom.REVELATION 1:6“and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and F…[Read more]

JOHN 1:18“No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.”No “man” has seen God.The only-begotten “god” explained him.Of course, those who exist in heaven, with God, are not men. They are not made of flesh. They can see God. I tend to think that for a man to try to…[Read more]

My only reference point to New Zealand people is Bret and Jermaine from “Flight of the Conchords.”In my mind, I tend to assume T8 is like Bret and Nick is like Jermaine. Have either of you ever seen that show?

Was God's name used by the inspired writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures?I think it had to be.  Here's why:Jerome, in the fourth century, wrote: “Matthew, who is also Levi, and who from a publican came to be an apostle, first of all composed a Gospel of Christ in Judaea in the Hebrew language and characters for the benefit of those of the ci…[Read more]

Why do many Bible translations not use the personal name of God or use it only a few times?The preface of the Revised Standard Version explains: “For two reasons the Committee has returned to the more familiar usage of the King James Version: (1) the word ‘Jehovah’ does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew; and (2) th…[Read more]

Where is God’s name found in Bible translations that are commonly used today?The New English Bible: The name Jehovah appears at Exodus 3:15; 6:3. See also Genesis 22:14; Exodus 17:15; Judges 6:24; Ezekiel 48:35. (But if this and other translations use “Jehovah” in several places, why not be consistent in using it at every place where the Tetra…[Read more]

Quote As for the Sabbath, 94, I think I already asked you this and you didn't answer me. If you are still under the law, and the law states that someone who doesn't uphold the sabbath is to be stoned, how many people have you stoned?Secondly, while not under law, the principle of the sabbath still holds. All the reasons behind the sabbath still…[Read more]

Hi Nick.Your complete fabrication of thought and complete avoidance of questions and scriptures is absurd to the highest degree. I will take one of whatever he is drinking.:D

Quote Hi david,The second death is real.If you believe scripture.I do, and so I believe the lake of fire “means the second DEATH.”But if you believe Dante, or the Greeks, or babylon before both, you'll probably believe in a devil who lives in fire and tortures people at God's request. Sad.

Quote Hi david,If you could show one verse that says Jesus is Michael we might believe that you hold scripture higher than you hold the Watchtower.Show me one verse that says “the lake of fire means eternal torture” and I'll show you a verse that says “Michael is another name for Jesus.”Deal?

Doesn't make sense does it?And it paints you in a bad light, doesn't it?You are a master at that technique. I think I shall pick up the crazy hat and jump on your bandwagon. It's much more fun than actually discussing scripture or having discussions.

https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=1299;st=350;r=1;&#entry160859Quote Hi david,So like the trinity doctrine if it appeals to someone's logic it is true.Hi NICK.Believe Satan is a good guy if you like, but I tend to think he's the bad one.

Quote Anyway, go back and attempt to answer some of my questions. That would be a good starting place.

Hi Nick.So Satan is a good guy.I can see why you love the idea of God torturing people.

Quote So logic = scriptural truth.Ya, that's what I said Nick. Sure. Are you for real?Watch, I can do that too. I'll do it in my next post.

I thought this thread was on Gene's toism.

Quote Hi S,Logic does not compare for us with divine wisdom as is written.Where divine wisdom and so called logic do not agree, of course there is no comparison.But is divine wisdom logical, or illogical?And, if the Bible doesn't say: 1+1=2, how can we know this is true?As it turns out, we can use logic to determine truth. But of course, where…[Read more]