Quote Hi DavidBut love, joy, peace etc is not what the kingdom is. –lineon.My point exactly.Yet, you used that scripture which spoke of those things to prove that the kingdom (not joy, peace, etc) were inside of people.Quote Our God will renew everything that includes language, 'goverments', so we will not quiet understand how every thing will…[Read more]

Nick, your predictablility / disregard for the rules / rudeness, is beginning to bother me.Do you seriously not have any thoughts on how YOU understand the Bible? Or was my list perfect and complete?

Quote He is not an angels. He is the Son of God directly from the Father. Cindy, may I ask you (Nick refuses to answer this):Does being the “Son of God directly” mean in itself that you cannot be called a “malwakh”? Are the two incompatible in some way I don't understand?Both humans and spirits are called malwakh.  It seems many act as if…[Read more]

From now on, Nick, you are arguing with T8:Secondly scripture calls Jesus an angel.–T8.

Nick, what is an angel (Malawk)?You believe it is one form of being. In your mind Malawk is one being, God is one being, Jesus is a completely different form of being, humans are different forms of beings.But since both humans and spirits are called Malawk, can this be true? What is a malawk?

Quote (david @ Feb. 16 2009,16:38)Quote (david @ Feb. 16 2009,04:22)Nick, I'd rather discuss this here, in the main thread.  3 others have been started all exactly the same.  I prefer to have one large thread than several little threads all discussing the same thing.I though we could start with T8's point above.  Is T8 wrong?So, we have a be…[Read more]

1. Examine the Immediate Context. 2. Consider the Larger Context. (Scripture interprets scripture.) 3. God’s Word never contradicts itself. 4. Start with Clear Scriptures. (Spend most of your time in the clear scriptures.)5. Use More Than One Scripture. 6. Use More Than One Translation. I'm sure everyone on here uses some or all of these i…[Read more]

Remember this page Nick?https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=470I gave you every opportunity to discuss this with you. In fact, I wanted to start, not with any of my arguments, but with your only real argument–that Jesus isn't an angel. BUT, and here's what is the truth–You cannot discuss things. You are incapable of it. You are unwilling…[Read more]

HI Nick,I'm glad you've conceded that you were wrong and that T8 (and the Bible) are correct.(Making stuff up is fun.)

Quote I posted what I thought was a danger to an across the board substitution of”Jehovah” in the following. While almost all Bible's do not contain Jehovah's name in the NT, I think it is safe to say that where there is a quote, it is highly unlikely that the inspired Bible writers would have taken God's name out and substituted Lord or…[Read more]

Quote The letter 'J' is only 500 years old.Right, and until as recently as 100 years ago, J was pronounced as “I” or “Y”.I found the following extremely fascinating:http://reactor-core.org/~djw/myblog/archives/2007/02/21/T14_10_58/

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 15 2009,09:07)Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2009,14:01)We had the conversation here as well:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;hl=godHey, are you the sort of guy who always calls facial tissue “kleenex”?Hi DavidWhat are you trying to say David, there are different types of gods? I suppose you are right, there are “false…[Read more]

You know, angel/messenger–exact same word.From everything I've read about what Jesus did and said while on earth (that he was “sent forth” from God; that he spoke the ideas of God, and not of himself) it seems Jesus was God's primary messenger, his chief malwahk.hmmmm.

Quote Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. There is of course, another sabbath that we keep. But it's not one of the many law covenant sabbaths.

Quote Does that mean that the commandment that states that we should not commit adultery has been abolished?Yes, the Bible states that the Mosaic Law, the law covenant, has been “abolished.”Jesus taught in principles. Principles require more thought and a more spiritual heart. It is easier to follow laws. Would godly principles allow you to…[Read more]

Quote David wrote:QuoteJust speaking hypothetically, if it was true that Jesus existed before and if God transferred his life into Mary’s womb, what Greek word would you use?“Placed” would be a good word.You also would not have an immaculate conception though you would still have a virgin birth.But, again, speaking hypothetically, if Jesus exist…[Read more]

Quote Hi DavidEph 2:20 You are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets. Christ Jesus himself is the cornerstone.For you for me to be built on the foundation of the prophetswe have to have the the stones of the kingdom in our heartThis scripture says nothing of Jesus or the apostles being in our hearts.Quote Gal 5:22 But the…[Read more]

Quote david are you there?Will you answer these questions?How do you know that the bible is REALLY God's word?….I am serious questioning the validity and authenticity of the bible…..And these are just a couple of MANY, MANY examples of inconsistency of the GOD of the bible…Not to mention GOD in the OT was a murderous, venegeful, GOD..who…[Read more]

“The Greek word translated “conceived” may be better translated “begat” which means to generate offspring. If he was generated in Mary’s womb he did not exist before.”–kerwin.When I make a pie, you could say I cause that pie to come into existence, but in reality, the pie existed before, but in another form. I have a question Kerwin. Is it the…[Read more]

Quote The Greek word translated “conceived” may be better translated “begat” which means to generate offspring. If he was generated in Mary’s womb he did not exist before.Just speaking hypothetically, if it was true that Jesus existed before and if God transfered his life into mary's womb, what Greek word would you use?