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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2014,03:06)Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2014,11:04)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2014,15:26)Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2014,08:16)You may buy slavesThey are to come from the nations around you. You can make them slaves for life.You must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly (cruelly).buying slaves that already where were…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 30 2014,15:26)Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2014,08:16)You may buy slavesThey are to come from the nations around you. You can make them slaves for life.You must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly (cruelly).buying slaves that already where were slave this would be a step in the right direction if Israel would be…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    You may buy slavesThey are to come from the nations around you. You can make them slaves for life.You must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly (cruelly).

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    Quote But there is also the risk that iron sharpens iron. I myself am not afraid to be scrutinized by others.–t8, this thread. Hi t8I created a new thread for us in this hot seat section.

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2014,05:22)Quote So it's not so much that another is your slave.  It's more how you treat that slave.  Obviously, the stories we in America have been told about masters raping the wives of their slaves, and separating parents from their children, and all those other atrocities, don't fall under “act justly and love m…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote So it's not so much that another is your slave. It's more how you treat that slave. Obviously, the stories we in America have been told about masters raping the wives of their slaves, and separating parents from their children, and all those other atrocities, don't fall under “act justly and love mercy”.The thing is, I'm not sure this is…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote Mat 20:27 NET Bibleand whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave See. Here the idea of servant and not forced slavery is clearly meant.

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote And God created us with all authority over the animals of the earth.Sure. But what of man and man? Man has dominated man to his injury.

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote And God has always set things up in hierarchies.  For example, there are archangels, and the angels under their command, ie: angels who SERVE the archangels.The angels all have a choice.  Some left. And although not stated, I don't think god has ever commanded any angels to effectively steel other angels and use them for labour, and to d…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote Seriously though, both the Hebrew and Greek words for “slave” also mean “servant”.Yes. I dont care too much about the words.  I am mostly asking about FORCED slavery/servant hood Call them slaves or servants if you like, I only care about the:Ownership or possession of humans (as property) that is forced.

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Mike!I wondered when you would come to play.

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    A modest proposal:We institute forced slavery, as it was sanctioned in the Bible by God.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2014,00:20)DavidForced slavery is it equal to forced labor,and feed to nearly surviving ??? And other abuses ? If so it is wrong,for many reasonsThen you, like t8, would seem to be arguing against God.

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    No idea. What do you think.

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    I'm not really sick of t8 avoiding my questions. I'm sick of everyone avoiding this topic. Maybe this is the wrong forum. I don't wish for t8 to get a tile. Nor myself for that matter.

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    Quote God obviously would not be happy with you if you took someone at random off the street and turned them into a slave, yet God hands people over to slavery at certain times.–t8T8, what gives you this idea? What makes this “obvious”?

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 27 2014,16:15)Is conscience just beliefs that are programmed into us in youth?A canibal doesn't feel bad when he eats human flesh. In fact he feels odd and bad when he doesn't.  This wasn't born into the cannibal. It's just the beliefs and behaviours that he was surrounded with growing up.  When a person behaves in a way that c…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,16:55)David,Psychiatrists practice a soft science and it tends to be influenced more by the bias of the individual.  Never the less they are better at determining the situation with those that live by the flesh and not those that live by the Spirit.  The later are just too alien to them.Hi kerwin. Is this somehow r…[Read more]

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    Is conscience just beliefs that are programmed into us in youth?A canibal doesn't feel bad when he eats human flesh. In fact he feels odd and bad when he doesn't. This wasn't born into the cannibal. It's just the beliefs and behaviours that he was surrounded with growing up. When a person behaves in a way that contradicts his beliefs he suffers…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 10 years, 7 months ago

    I think this is the only thread on slavery. I've decided to convert it into a trinity thread so that people will care about it. I think what is happening with this subject may be called cognitive dissonance.

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