Quote It doesn't matter whether it says He or God…the Object of the verse we know to be Jesus…yet it said God was manifested flesh.No…that is what is in question. It does “not” say “God.” SOME manuscripts say God. Many manuscripts say “He.” Since, as you say, the object of the verse is known to be Jesus, which manuscripts do you think…[Read more]

Quote Have a minute before more company comes over today…I said you mis-INTERPRETED Augustine. I didn't say you mis-quoted him.Well I didn't do either. Your failing to read his retractions is not my error. It is yours.Quote The church is founded upon Christ. Peter is the Vicar or Prime minister if you will of the Messianic King in the line of…[Read more]

Quote No David, we “become” partakers” of the divine nature, we didn't originally have it…the Son did. The Son is perfect and always was, we are not. Big difference!But when someone becomes a “partaker” of divine nature, they have “divine nature” do they not?All I'm saying is this “big difference” isn't biblical. Nor is the “if you have…[Read more]

Quote We may obtain the nature of God, and be in his likeness, but we will not become HIM.So, Rokka, having divine nature or the “nature of God” does not necessarily mean we are God.That's all I wanted you to say. Thankyou.

1 JOHN 4:2“YOU gain the knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God,”The Bible many times says “Jesus” came in the flesh. It does not say this of God, except in this verse in question (1 tim 3:16)Apparently, some manuscripts read “Go…[Read more]

Also, the “received up into glory.” What do you think this refers to?

He was made manifest in flesh,Does the Bible say “Jesus” “became flesh” or does it say “God” “became flesh.”Of course, it says “Jesus.” So, in saying “he was made manifest in the flesh” that's a clue who we're talking about: Jesus.

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 30 2009,10:02)Quote (david @ Aug. 30 2009,09:33)I'll check the gateway Bibles for example, one by one.  Here we go:New International Version–HeNew American Standard Bible–HeThe Message–HeAmplified Bible–He (with footnote that says: some manuscripts read “God”)New Living Translation–HeEnglish Standard…[Read more]

Quote It is the only translation that is closest to the original hebrew bibleQuote The KJ is like the second photo copy of the original hebrew bible..All joking aside, this is not true.Quote The KJ is like the second photo copy of the original hebrew bible…when you get down to your “many bibles” you start taking photocopies of photocopies of…[Read more]

Quote So no we will not become God.But I thought you said if you shared the nature with God, you are God. maybe you didn't say that. Did you?

Phil 2:6,“Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped.”(NIV)“who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, “ (NASB)“who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, “ (ASV)NW, RS, NE, TEV, NA…[Read more]

CONTEXT!Read the context.We're being told we should be humble like Jesus who, you say: “didn't think it was Robbery to be equal with God.”YOUR BIBLE:That is exactly wrong.KING JAMES BIBLE”ye be likeminded, . . . . in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. . . .Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who,…[Read more]

Quote In the same reasoning, a son of God is God because He shares the nature of God.So, many people will become God?Quote Does having “divine nature” mean you're God?(2 Pet 1:4)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,08:47)Hi david,We are not allowed to add our implications to scripture. Look at Jl 2 in context.it occurs “AFTER THIS”So it does not relate to now.Peter used it as a type or an illustration of the release of the Spirit of God but the time of Jl 2 is not yet.  You are either a sheep or a goat.What does ANY of this…[Read more]

Quote We believe ALL scripture, yet anti-trinitarians like to pick and choose…at least the ones on this board.One of us is picking and choosing a Bible. They make many new Bibles. The KJ was not the first English Bible. It certainly is not the original Bible. It was translated 1 1/2 milleniums after the original manuscripts.We've gotten…[Read more]

I'll check the gateway Bibles for example, one by one.  Here we go:New International Version–HeNew American Standard Bible–HeThe Message–HeAmplified Bible–He (with footnote that says: some manuscripts read “God”)New Living Translation–HeEnglish Standard Version–HeContempary English Version–He (with footnote: “The Greek text has “he,”…[Read more]

What is a rapture? I don't remember reading about that in the Bible. Is it a movie or something?

The context of the surrounding verses (3-5, 7, 8, Dy) makes it clear how verse 6 is to be understood. The Philippians were urged: “In humility, let each esteem others better than themselves.” Then Paul uses Christ as the outstanding example of this attitude: “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.” What “mind”? To ‘think it n…[Read more]

found it.

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 30 2009,09:24)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,09:20)Hi R, So being in the form of God really means being God?YesDoes having “divine nature” mean you're God?(2 Pet 1:4)