Your conscience or the conscience of those who believe you are a Christian.  Which is more important?WJ, I ask you this again.  Which is more important.  Your freedom.  Or, your brother?david

Quote Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2009,04:10)No, WJ, for me, Oct 31st is quite similar to Oct 30th. It's very similar to Oct 29th. It's astoundingly similar to Nov 15th, or Dec 18th.Great, then why are you not free to do on Oct 31st what you may do on Oct 30th or Oct 10th or Jan 28th?Because my freedom isn't as important as stumbling someone else.…[Read more]

Quote I AM DEFENDING CHRISTIAN LIBERTY. Technically this thread is about halloween. I think through the legalist implications and discern the attack on Christian liberty.–thinker.What do you think of halloween?

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,10:08)Quote (david @ Oct. 21 2009,10:02)Quote David,Okay. But you have been suggesting that our method is pagan because we will give a piece of candy with a gospel tract. If we give it in Christ's name it is sanctified. “To the pure ALL THINGS are pure.”–thinker.Quote Halloween has never been hallowed from my…[Read more]

Quote First, your assertion that WJ keeps bad associations just because he gives out tracts and candy on halloween is ridiculous.For the 4th time, I never actually “asserted” that. WJ said Jesus spent time with sinners. I stated that “bad association spoils useful habits.” (the Bible)It's not even really association when you only say “hi” to…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,10:03)Quote (david @ Oct. 21 2009,09:53)Quote I have never heard an objection from the world about giving candy and tracts to children. I hear this objection only from self righteous “christians.”–thinker.That's weird?  The world doesn't mind halloween.  Well that must mean it's ok.  Thinker, I think you are to…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 21 2009,05:48)Quote (david @ Oct. 20 2009,20:54)All this talk of freedom seems very USA.Hey now…..   This cracked me up.  David, freedom is a CHRIST THING!  What, exactly, do you think Christ died for?I hate to tell you this bro, but we have the freedom to sin.  We were given that freedom (by whom?).We only choose not to…[Read more]

Quote PS: this thread has moved too quickly for me to keep up with it. –mandy.I know. I'm going to move on to something else soon.

Quote David,Okay. But you have been suggesting that our method is pagan because we will give a piece of candy with a gospel tract. If we give it in Christ's name it is sanctified. “To the pure ALL THINGS are pure.”–thinker.Quote Halloween has never been hallowed from my lips. I have spoken about it only as an opportunity to evangelize. WJ has…[Read more]

Quote The origins of Halloween were not about devil worship, they were about the walls of this world and the “otherworld” being laid thin; spirits could wander and communicate with the living. There is nothing here that says anyone is worshiping the devil? I'm a bit confused. I think that last part was tacked-on by the Christian movement who…[Read more]

Quote I have never heard an objection from the world about giving candy and tracts to children. I hear this objection only from self righteous “christians.”–thinker.That's weird? The world doesn't mind halloween. Well that must mean it's ok. Thinker, I think you are too deep in the world to see straight. The world does not object to most…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,09:42)Quote (david @ Oct. 21 2009,09:37)Quote so David and Con want to do the same and hinder the evangelistic efforts of those who seize the opportunities that halloween presents.Thinker do you ever get tired of misleading people?  More JW's will be “evangalizing” on that day than any other group I imagine.So…[Read more]

Quote Paul said that we are not to cause our brother to stumble. He defined this as our causing our brother to ACT against his own conscience.–thinkerQuote We cause our brother to stumble when we cause him to act contrary to his conscience. You and I have maintained that this is wrong and a misuse of liberty. We have been very clear about it. So…[Read more]

Quote so David and Con want to do the same and hinder the evangelistic efforts of those who seize the opportunities that halloween presents.Thinker do you ever get tired of misleading people? More JW's will be “evangalizing” on that day than any other group I imagine.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 21 2009,07:57)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 20 2009,15:53)Hi WJ, Fun is an excuse for everything. But are we not servants?NHDoes your religion demand no fun? Is your religion just a dreary practice of “will worship”?WJThis is what people always say. But why does “fun” always seem to have to be dictated by the world?…[Read more]

The RELIGIOuS LEADERS ACCUSED HIM OF BEING SON OF God. If he ever taught he was God himself, you’d think that this definitely without question would be what they would accuse him of.If they wanted him dead that badly, they would throw everything they had at him. They had fake witnesses, a mock trial. If they wanted to judge him as deserving o…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 21 2009,07:33)Quote (katjo @ Oct. 21 2009,02:18)David, I noticed you posted awhile back Jesus was not caled the Almighty-Rev1;8 I am the Alpha And Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is and which was and which is to come. The Almighty! In Rev. he is also called lord our God. In Jude he is our weise…[Read more]

Mandy has made mention that today halloween is made up of people who dress like baseball players, astronauts, etc.I had stated that Demons, ghosts, goblins, witches, vampires where the maskots for halloween.I was in someone's house today (for work) and they had decorated it for halloween. And I didn't see any decorations of ballerina's. I saw…[Read more]

Love and many blessingsEd JEd, have you started your own religion?And, do you think the Bible has a secret code in it?

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 19 2009,21:29)Quote (david @ Oct. 19 2009,20:56)See “coptic” thread:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….=copticThe earliest Bible that I can find that had the indefinite article “a” in their language used it in that instance. (John 1:1)Watch how long it takes for David to respond to what I have written one post earlier!He's…[Read more]