Quote I know that this is a one on one debate.i would like to pose a question for both of the debatorsI see there is alot of debate whether Jesus is God or not or he is one with him or part of him and etc.But shifting the focus, doesnt it mean anything to ya that the scripture that is referring to Jesus (If you agree in that) in John 1:1, that he…[Read more]

oK, I'll play moderator.So, globul warming, eh? Canadian, eh? Bring on the heat.

Basically, what I'm saying is, does it “prove” anything when we see three things or persons lumped together?1 JOHN 5:6-8“This is he that came by means of water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. And the spirit is that which is bearing witness, because the spirit is the truth. For there are t…[Read more]

Quote Idk For God to only be Jesus is a limitation, to only being savoir, For God only being Father is a limiation of being only a creator and not being able to be part of us, and for God to only be the Holy spirit is a limitation to being will only our guide. –DennisonSo, what if someone claims that our “Savior” and our “Creator” and our “Guide”…[Read more]

Quote It is evedent from greetings and closings such as these, that every NT writer knew that only one being is God, and that one is the Father alone.Well, it's not really clear from the above scriptures that “every” NT writer knew that only one being is God, because all those scriptures were from Paul.But, of course, James, Peter and John had…[Read more]

Quote “For the kingdom of God comes not with observation, but is with in you”. –Gene.Gene, what does the footnote say? Without even knowing which of the 2 Bible's you're quoting from, I'll tell you. It says: “or, 'among you.'” or something to that effect. The rest all read similarly, in the main text.Add in all the other scritpures that speak…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 12 2010,10:37)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 11 2010,17:35)So I mean if Lucas mentioned the Holy Spirit, but not the Father and not Jesus, doesn’t that tell us something.  That Lucas the investigator who wanted to know, must have asked Paul, and Paul told him the Holy Spirit.  We could argue that Paul was called by Jes…[Read more]

Quote QUESTION 1:  If these three are a trinity, would it not be a disrespect of immense magnitude to continually count them as only 2?Thats a strange question. Hi Dennison.First, I don't think it is a strange question.  If 3 make up the triune God, why is it always 2 that are mentioned?  You don't find that a little odd?  You don't find it odd…[Read more]

Quote David,Maybe I was a little too subtle for you.Do you read any of my posts?Do you not yet know what I stand for, what I believe, who my God is?My point is… That the WHOLE of Scriptures, the whole Bible, shows there is no such thing as a Trinity Godhead.Hi JA.Yes, I thought you felt that way. I was confused by your statements. Sorry for…[Read more]

I'm continuing this line of reasoning here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….t=3213;

Quote (JustAskin @ May 09 2010,11:52)David,Why did you only quote those verses?Why didn't you just quote the WHOLE SCRIPTURES?Which scriptures?  The whole Bible?  I've been through it.  What I find is that the Father, Jesus and the holy spirit are no more mentioned as a triune, than certain disciples who are listed together more often.What I fi…[Read more]

I have thought about it. You didn't actually answer my question. Let's put some scriptures together.”They kingdom come , THY WILL BE DONE, in earth as in Heaven.”It is God's kingdom (a government) that will bring about his will on earth. Suffering, death, war, poverty, etc, are not God's will, and they are things that human govenrnments cannot…[Read more]

Follow up questions to ignore:PETER JAMES JOHN James, Peter, and John used similar phrases in the introduction to their letters where they likewise do not mention the holy spirit. James said he was “a slave of God and of Lord Jesus Christ.” (James 1:1) John also said: “this sharing of ours is with the Father and with his Son Jesus…[Read more]

“The Trinity is here to stay, and Matthew 28:19 is unambiguous evidence that the early Apostles and Church Fathers believed in a Trinity.”–WJThe fact that 3 were mentioned in no way proves anything other than the fact that you can count to 3!Congratulations on that.  Well done. I have a question, one which will remain largely unanswered and…[Read more]

Quote It existed even at the time of Jesus and still does NOW on the earth through His disciples. Gene, do you pray for God's kingdom to come? And if so, what are you praying for? And why do you pray this?Quote But scripture plainly shows the Kingdom of GOD is a SPIRITUAL KingdomIt is a “heavenly kingdom” as the Bible says, but as I've pointed…[Read more]

Samuel and the Witch of EndorOk, I know it's in the giganitic “soul” thread, but I can't find it.  Here's some things to ponder on the Samuel situation with the witch of endor.“You state that a dead person no longer exists and yet Samuel who was dead obviously exists when the witch of Endor summons him.”–KerwinRead 1 Samuel 28:4-20Before saying…[Read more]

Bible scriptures with the word “soul” in them. (I started looking them up individually)https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=440

ANIMALS ARE SOULSGe 1:20,21,24; 2:19; 9:10,12,15; Le 11:10,46; 24:18; Nu 31:28; Job 41:21; Eze 47:9A LIVING PERSON OR INDIVIDUAL IS A SOULGe 2:7; 12:15; 14:21; 36:6; 46:15,18,22,25,26,27; Ex 1:5; 12:4,16; 16:16; Le 2:1; 4:2,27; 5:1,2,4,15,17; 6:2; 7:18,20,21,25,27; 17:10,12,1518:29; 20:6; 22:6,11; 23:29,30; 27:2; Nu 5:6; 15:27,28,30; 19:18,22;…[Read more]

Quote You state that a dead person no longer exists and yet Samuel who was dead obviously exists when the witch of Endor summons him.–kerwin.Hi Kerwin.  I'm not sure which thread it's in, I'll try to find it, but this has been discussed at length.  There is evidence to believe that it was not the dead Samuel that was speaking.I'll go find it.  …[Read more]

Quote David…….We are told when a man dies , his thoughts PARISH, He no longer has thought, the Spirit he dad goes back to its source, His Body decomposes in the grave , He is gone for ever, unless GOD the FATHER resurrects Him a NEW Body and adds Spirit back into it , he is gone for ever. Jesus would have been eternally dead if He did not have…[Read more]