david replied to the topic Skeptics debate errors in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago
This is similar to my “Five Common Fallacies” thread:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….llaciesI agree with everything you said above. And all of these tactics are used with great frequency by pretty much everyone, even those who aren't trying to use them.I think it helps to actually look at the actual fallacies and consider why they are wrong.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote If your word isn't you, then where is the origin of your word?You seem to have a considerable amount of trouble connecting the dots; don't you?No Ed, I just think logically.With you, you see patterns everywhere. People find patterns where there are none. They see faces where there are none. Of course, my word originates with me. It comes…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote John 4:24 explicitly states “God is a Spirit” andLeviticus 11:45 says (in essence) JEHOVAH is Holy.(Page 58 the third Post from the bottom of the Page)Connecting the dots up for you: JEHOVAH is therefore the “HolySpirit”!ed, what does the phrase: “God's holy spirit” mean to you?QUESTION 3:If “God” is the “holy spirit” then how do you…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
You can say “I opened the door” or “My arm opened the door,” but either way, your arm is not you….it's a part of you, something you possess.
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote In much the same way your word is with you, and your word is you. (John 1:1 / 2 Cor.5:19)But my “word” isn't me. Would you ever confuse my words with me? Hey look, there's David. No wait, it's actually David's words. Words are something I use, just as God's holy spirit is something he uses.
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
God is holyGod is a spirit.Therefore, God is the holy spiritAngels are holy (Deuteronomy 33:2; Jude 14) Angels are spirits Therefore, angels are holy spiritsIf the same logic leads to a false conclusion, is the logic sound?
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote John 4:24 explicitly states “God is a Spirit” andLeviticus 11:45 says (in essence) JEHOVAH is Holy.(Page 58 the third Post from the bottom of the Page)Connecting the dots up for you: JEHOVAH is therefore the “HolySpirit”!I read where you stated this before. I wanted you to repeat it to me before I pointed out the gross error in your logic.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Hi Nick?Do you get a penny every time you mention the watchtower? Who do you work for? Can you please stay on topic?
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote Yes; it really is quite simple isn't it: “HolySpirit” is GOD!–EdQuestion: If holy spirit is God, then why is it so often used possesively? (More than a hundred times the holy spirit is referred to as “the spirit of Jehovah,” “God’s spirit,” “my spirit” etc. All such possessive uses of the holy spirit further argue that it is an instrum…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote 'However, to gain accurate knowledge of God's personality,each individual needs to open God's word, the bible, and examineit for himself. Do not passively allow others to mold your thinking.''If you know what the bible really teaches about God, you will avoid being misled'…Yes, it's harder to mislead someone who wants to keep sticking to…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
I'm also curious about what Nick asked early on, and about what he also commented on a page back.Is your finger, you?Is God's spirit, God?If you don't have answers, perhaps you have some questions?
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote Hi David,I have Posted many comments on this subject.Did you read through the entire thread?No, but I have been paying very close attention to our conversation. I began by asking if the holy spirit is ever called “God” in scripture. Despite being told that such scriptures exist, I have yet to see one.You then made the assertion: “The Bible…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote Hi David,Then stick to the subject…HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus ChristHow about WE BOTH stick to the subject. Agreed? The subject is stated above. Can you comment on the subject?
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Nick asserts that the Bible calls God's holy spirit “God.” You say this is true. Can you show us any single instance where this is so? I cannot find any such occurences. This is still my first question: “Does the Bible say that the “holy spirit” is “God”?” The answer I believe is “no” or at the most, that it does not directly or clearly do…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote Hi David,Do you ask questions to learn or merely to accuse? That sounded like an accusation. Can we please stick to the topic. I would very much like to discuss what scripture DOES and DOESN'T say.
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote Hi David,Is your finger called david?No, it's not.And nor is God's finger called “God.” It is something “God” possesses. Over and over it's spoken of as something God possesses and uses. God's finger is not “God.” God's finger is God's finger. God's holy spirit is not God. It is God's holy spirit.We should not confuse this with a f…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Ed, I share this with you simply because you like numbers:DOES THE BIBLE TEACH OR SAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD?How many times does the Bible “tell”us that Jehovah is God? Expressions we find in the Bible:Jehovah your God–455 timesJehovah the God of–204 timesJehovah our God–105 timesJehovah God–50 timesJehovah their God–39 timesJehovah my…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Ed. I have NO IDEA what your point is. It's quite unrelated to my question.
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2010,15:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2010,15:18)Hi David, The Holy Spirit is called God.Ps139.7Jn14.10Jn15.262Cor5.19Eph 3.19Phil2.13etcHi Nick,Thanks for standing with me in “The Truth”! 2 Cor.5:19 reveals something else to us as well!2 Cor.5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not…[Read more]
david replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote Hi ED,Is you spirit you?The Spirit of God is as the finger of God.–NickThis is Nick's question I found that wasn't actually answered. It is a good question.Is your spirit, you?Is God's finger, God?
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