Quote What's the matter nothing to 'cut and paste'(pre-fabed) from the watchtower community? Ed, over and over, I've found with you (and many others) that when they can't answer questions, or can't even acknowledge the existence of certain scriptures, they start attacking others personally. I do understand why. I do feel your frustration at not…[Read more]

I know. I felt bad about saying it, because it was true, and thought it might hurt your feelings. But it is just so ridiculously ridiculous.

What ever happened to davidbfun, who started this idea. I see him making other posts.Davidbfun, how would you respond to the above?

What ever happened to davidbfun, who started this idea. I see him making other posts.Davidbfun, how would you respond to the above?

Ed, you quoted my words:Quote If “God's holy spirit” is “God” then is Eph 4:30 saying “God's God”? I don't think it is. I think it, like the hundred other scriptures that speak of God's spirit as something he possesses, that this scripture too, is referring to the holy spirit “of” God, or “God's holy spirit,” something that is his, something he…[Read more]

Quote Eph.4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, –ed.So if the “holy spirit” is “God” then what does the above mean?–“And grieve not the 'God' of 'God'”?

Quote Joseph was NOT Jesus' Father–edEd!That is my point exactly. So, who is this scripture speaking of?Jesus “sprang from the seed of David according to the flesh.” (Ro 1:3) You have just eliminated Joseph. Who does that leave?Case closed!(The fact that you've ignored this scripture for several pages….doesn't that bother you?)Jesus spr…[Read more]

Quote Joseph was NOT Jesus' Father–edEd!That is my point exactly. So, who is this scripture speaking of?Jesus “sprang from the seed of David according to the flesh.” (Ro 1:3) You have just eliminated Joseph. Who does that leave?Case closed!(The fact that you've ignored this scripture for several pages….doesn't that bother you?)Jesus spr…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,16:05)Quote (david @ July 16 2010,15:52)Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,21:33)Quote (david @ July 15 2010,18:15)ED, Ed, did you know the Bible writers used personification a lot?  Would you like me to give you a hundred examples?Hi David,With reference to The “HolySpirit” you bet!God blessEd J (Joshua…[Read more]

Quote I showed you where the Scriptures documentthe “HolySpirit” as Jesus' Father. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35) –edThis is frankly one of the top 10 most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen on this forum!Your argument is that God is “holy” and God is a “spirit” therefore, God is “the” holy spirit.Does anyone else think this is sound…[Read more]

Quote Isn't 'your point' to try to prove that The “HolySpirit” . . . is something other than God?–Ed.My point, Ed, is to continue to point out that you refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming existence of massive amounts of scripture. You continue to ignore them and sidestep them and distract away from them. I asked you a question, and you did…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,21:33)Quote (david @ July 15 2010,18:15)ED, Ed, did you know the Bible writers used personification a lot?  Would you like me to give you a hundred examples?Hi David,With reference to The “HolySpirit” you bet!God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, I'm not certain you know what personification…[Read more]

Quote I disagree that evolutionst are less biased. Seekingtruth, maybe I said that wrong. I just consider what is at stake and who has more at stake.With those who believe in God, their very belief in everlasting life is at stake. Their eternal future is at stake. The lives of their families is at stake. For those who believe in God, they…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,What you posted here: is 'only' the 'opinion' of the watchtower community.No, ed, as I said:More than a hundred times the holy spirit is referred to as “the spirit of Jehovah,” “God’s spirit,” “my spirit” and “spirit of Jesus Christ.” All such possessive uses of the holy spirit further argue that it is an instrumentality r…[Read more]

Hi oxy,I'm just saying that when I see that image, I of course first see frustration. But also someone who doesn't have it together. And really, it's also hurting my head. Why not make it a wall of pillows?

ED, YOU DID not address my comment. I wonder why. I'll repeat it.More than a hundred times the holy spirit is referred to as “the spirit of Jehovah,” “God’s spirit,” “my spirit” and “spirit of Jesus Christ.” All such possessive uses of the holy spirit further argue that it is an instrumentality rather than a separate and distinct person.—…[Read more]

Quote Quote You simply say: (in essence) you don't know Mary's Mother's lineage.That doesn't mean it is non-existent? It's of the tribe of Levy! (Luke 1:5)–ed1. Elizabeth was a “relative” of Mary. (We don't know exactly what kind of relative. Your Bible might say “cousin” but that is not exactly accurate.)Elizabeths father, a Levite, Zechariah…[Read more]

Quote Quote You simply say: (in essence) you don't know Mary's Mother's lineage.That doesn't mean it is non-existent? It's of the tribe of Levy! (Luke 1:5)–ed1. Elizabeth was a “relative” of Mary. (We don't know exactly what kind of relative. Your Bible might say “cousin” but that is not exactly accurate.)Elizabeths father, a Levite, Zechariah…[Read more]

And yet, it is repeatedly referred to as God's holy spirit, as if it were something God possessed and not God himself.hmmmm.

Oxy, your avatar is very annoying and gives me a headache just watching it. It also creates the impression that you are always frustrated or confused. You may want to change your image.