Quote (t8 @ July 16 2010,16:55)Maybe, but atheists also have a lot at stake. Future punishment is something atheists might fear if they think there is any possibility that YHWH is God. Some wicked people even believe in God, but think judgement is so far off, it doesn't matter right now.Believers have salvation to lose and atheists have judgement…[Read more]

Quote The Spirit was among the ten things that were created on the first day (Ḥag. 12a, b).Read more: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.js….v2m3HDFWhat is this Hag 12:a,b. I can't find it in my Bible.

Kerwin, your link does not work.Jewish scholars, examining the references to it in the Old Testament Scriptures, have never defined the Holy Spirit as anything but the power of God.“Holy Spirit. Judaism. In Tanach (Jewish scripture), ruah ha-Qodesh/Kodesh is the breath of God, and thus the effective and inspiring consequence of God at work in h…[Read more]

Quote Is that like saying your 'sperm' is responsible for you childrather than you? Because your sperm isn't all of you?Your logic is flawed, but you can't seem to see it?Apparently, I and a lot of people on here cant see it. (Just like we can't see meaning in your numbers.) The only one that at first seems to be agreeing with you is Nick, and…[Read more]

Quote True David,And if I stood on your finger I would hurt you.True Nick, and if I cut off your finger, I would be sent to prison for killing you.Wait, that's not true. Your finger doesn't equal you. It is “of” you.

Quote 25%: Mary's father's lineage was through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)OK, I think I haven't been being clear enough.Jesus “sprang from the seed of David ACCORDING TO THE FLESH.” (Ro 1:3)You have already established and pointed out to me that Joseph is not Jesus Father. It was not according to the flesh of Joseph that Jesus arr…[Read more]

Quote 25%: Mary's father's lineage was through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)OK, I think I haven't been being clear enough.Jesus “sprang from the seed of David ACCORDING TO THE FLESH.” (Ro 1:3)You have already established and pointed out to me that Joseph is not Jesus Father. It was not according to the flesh of Joseph that Jesus arr…[Read more]

ok. good. I was getting tired of the other thread.

ok. good. I was getting tired of the other thread.

Yes, and my finger does my work, just as God's “finger” or “arm” (his holy spirit) does his work.But it is foolish to confuse my finger with myself or to say they are equal. My finger is “of” me, the “finger of David” just as the holy spirit is the “holy spirit of God” or “God's holy spirit.”

Ed, I recommend the book:ThereAre TwoErrors In TheThe Title of This Book*It is a very good book for getting a grasp on how to think correctly. It does so by pointing out cracks in logic.

Ed, I started with something that was obviously wrong (to most people) to highlight incorrect thinking. I was hoping we could leapfrog from that incorrect thinking to your thinking. But you refuse to say that the logic of those two ridiculous statements was false.

Quote Hi David,Your analogy is 'illogical' to the content of the thread;it offers nothing more than a distraction away from “Truth”.It highlights the truth of your thinking patterns and how you view reality. You still did not answer whether it was A or B. (the correct answer is B.)

Quote (Ed J @ July 17 2010,17:02)Quote (david @ July 17 2010,16:58)Hamburger is better than nothing.Nothing is better than steak.Therefore hamburger is better than steak.No cat has two tails.Every cat has one more tail than no cat.Therefore every cat has three tails.Ed, would you consider the above:A. LogicalB.  InsaneHi David,What is this…[Read more]

Quote David,I am not sure I would call the spirit of God something unless you also would call my arm something even though it is a part of me.Kerwin, would God's arm be “something”? Because his spirit is called his “arm” and also his “finger” in scripture.

Quote “YOU” CANNOT argue with this “Bible Truth”! (LORD: means Owner)Why would I?What I am arguing with is the idea that someone can take the word “lord” and realize that Abraham is called lord, and Jesus is called Lord, and then say that they are the same person.That's not correct thinking.

Quote Ed, I don't really care about your numerology, or astrology or whatever you'd call your secret hidden messages. They are all in your head. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek. Yet, you think God put a secret message in the KJ English Version. (Do you have any idea how many mistakes are in that version?) A bazillion!Quote David…..…[Read more]

Hamburger is better than nothing.Nothing is better than steak.Therefore hamburger is better than steak.No cat has two tails.Every cat has one more tail than no cat.Therefore every cat has three tails.Ed, would you consider the above:A. LogicalB. Insane

Ed, I don't really care about your numerology, or astrology or whatever you'd call your secret hidden messages. They are all in your head. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek. Yet, you think God put a secret message in the KJ English Version. (Do you have any idea how many mistakes are in that version?) A bazillion!

Quote if i have to understand what you are saying,is that Christ was a walking book??and still isyou are mixing two things ,and try to explain that they are one–Pierre.Exactly, Pierre. He does this over and over and I can't see how he doesn't understand the fallacy. You can't just put things together like that. I don't believe that everyone…[Read more]