Hi Ed, is your attack on me because of the fact that I went along in making fun of the number thing? Ed, I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings. But I consider it a weak play when someone randomly attacks something about me, just because I argued against one of their beliefs. (I do understand that this is a core belief of yours, so I know you are…[Read more]

wor·ship  (wûrshp)n.1.a. The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.b. The ceremonies, prayers, or other religious forms by which this love is expressed.2. Ardent devotion; adoration.3. often Worship Chiefly British Used as a form of address for magistrates, mayors, and certain other dignitaries: Your Wo…[Read more]

In the NT, proskyneo DOES NOT always mean “worship.”Here is one example where it can't possibly mean “worship.”Proof:  Mark 15:19″Also, they would hit him on the head with a reed and spit upon him and, bending their knees, they would do obeisance to him.” (NWT)”They kept beating His head with a reed, and spitting on Him, and kneeling and bowing…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2010,00:42)Quote (davidbfun @ July 21 2010,00:13)BOD you were right on!DavidHi David,Why don't you join with BD and become a Muslim?Ed Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI know I'm not the david to who you are speaking ed, but it is a fallacy to think that just because someone is wrong on one issue, that they are automatically…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 25 2010,16:24)Bod,This is an 'Inappropriate thread'It will be deleted unless you can justify why you have created it.Please do so in your next post here.I think this thread is completely justified.Ed bases everything on numbers. He sees patterns where there are none. He discriminates on how he determines which numbers to…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2010,14:44)Maybe there is something to it                                              Ed is lucifer=111                                        Receive a mark=111                                          Mark of beast=111                                                Witchcraft=111                                  …[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 03 2010,05:59)Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2010,02:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2010,14:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2010,22:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2010,14:26)“I and my Father are one. “Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 03 2010,04:35)Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2010,02:05)Quote AND IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”.If another person who knows better, misapplies this scripture again, my head is going to explode.DavidYou mean like the Jews who wanted to stone him for saying it?WJNo, WJ, I mean like you. I…[Read more]

WJ…. Mark 15:19.

Quote DavidJesus said “no one” was good but God. Do you believe him or not? I'm going to start playing the way WJ plays.OK, so this means that according to WJ, that WJ is not good. I guess he's bad.And, i guess jesus was wrong whenever he referred to someone as “good” in one of his illustrations.Jesus being wrong?WJ being bad?Or, rather, as is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 03 2010,04:10)Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2010,01:33)Quote In all the scriptures that speak of Jesus being worshipped (proskyneō) why didn’t Jesus once say do not worship me?To say that it is because Jesus wasn’t being worshipped but just being honored lacks evidence because there are no other NT examples of the word pro…[Read more]

Keith, in the last 3 pages, I believe I clearly refuted scripturally all the points you make. I would add more, but it is quite late. If there is anything you disagree with, I could spend more time on this. In summary, I find you continue to agree with what those who wanted Jesus dead were saying and not with Jesus himself.I find you…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2010,14:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2010,22:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2010,14:26)“I and my Father are one. “Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2010,14:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2010,22:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2010,14:17)MikeRead it closely, it is Johns words that is commentating what Jesus meant!Therefore the Jews sought “the more to kill him”, because he not only had broken the sabbath, “but said also that God was his Father, “MAKING…[Read more]

Quote But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. Acts 10:26Why didn't Jesus do this?When a king is bowed down to (in greek, “proskyneo”) he accepts this honor. Peter apparently felt uncomfortable with it. He was humble. And while Jesus is also humble, we know he is deserving of great honor. It is not a sin to show deep…[Read more]

Quote And…”I and my Father are one. “Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, “For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, BEING A MAN, MAKEST THYSELF GOD”. John…[Read more]

Quote Yes MikeListen to these words…Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that “GOD WAS HIS FATHER”, “making himself equal with God. John 5:18WJ, let me show you that the Satanists who you are agreeing with have bad logic:”God is my Father.” There, I said it. Does that mean…[Read more]

Quote How does your words negate Jesus claim to equality?WJ Sorry, what? ? ?How does Jesus saying “the father is greater than me” equate to him claiming equality?Which scripture says he claimed equality. (See post above for who wrongly believed that…hint: It's the most wrong people that ever lived, those who wanted Jesus dead…why align…[Read more]

Quote Therefore the Jews sought “the more to kill him”, because he not only had broken the sabbath, “but said also that God was his Father, MAKING HIMSELF EQUAL TO GOD. John 5:18WJ, just as we can't really trust the Pharisees to do the right thing, nor can we trust what the Jews who wanted Jesus dead, to believe the right thing. Notice that what…[Read more]

Quote AND IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”.If another person who knows better, misapplies this scripture again, my head is going to explode.