Hi Ed.The answer to your five questions is “no' to all.Ed, I am sorry that I hurtfully continued to attack your Bible code beliefs. I felt bad about that. I realize you hold those beliefs so dear. I noticed above, the blue words: “You still haven't retracted your statements.” I assume the statements you refer to are about your numbers. (It's…[Read more]

quick summaryQuote Why did John and Jesus choose the word if he wanted to portray the “True worship” to the Father could mean anything less? (In John 4:20-24 the word “proskyneō” is used 9 times in Jesus discussion with the Samaritan woman about the “True Worship”.)]In all the scriptures that speak of Jesus being worshipped (proskyneō) why…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,06:23)Hi AllDavid and Mike claim they have answered my points, but I am going to bring them up again so everyone can see that they have not. Also I have bolded the points in the end so that they have another chance at proving me wrong.In John 4:20-24 the word “proskyneō” is used 9 times in Jesus discussion…[Read more]

Quote The rhetoric about the word proskyneō not meaning “worship” but just bowing down out of respect is not in the NT.Please can someone give us a NT example of the word being used in honor to any other than the Father and Jesus?–wjPerhaps you do not read my posts.READ MATTHEW 18:26 AND THE SURROUNDING VERSESREAD MATTHEW 18:26 AND THE SUR…[Read more]

Quote To say that it is because Jesus wasn’t being worshipped but just being honored lacks evidence because there are no other NT examples of the word proskyneō being used toward any one with honor other than the Father and Jesus.–WJWe are now conveniently forgetting about the king in Jesus' illustration. Was the king being worshipped? No.

Quote In all the scriptures that speak of Jesus being worshipped (proskyneō) why didn’t Jesus once say do not worship me?–wjAgain, not great argumentation given that proskuneo doesn't necessarily mean to “worship.” (see strongs above.)

Quote Jesus said…But the hour cometh, and now is, when THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS SHALL WORSHIP the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:23Notice Strong's G4353 – “proskynētēs”, it is a masculine noun which means “worshippers” and is only found ONCE in the NT. It is the root word for the verb “prosky…[Read more]

Quote Hi AllDavid and Mike claim they have answered my points, but I am going to bring them up again so everyone can see that they have not. Also I have bolded the points in the end so that they have another chance at proving me wrong.In John 4:20-24 the word “proskyneō” is used 9 times in Jesus discussion with the Samaritan woman about the “True…[Read more]

Quote Since you and David insist that the word “proskyneō” does not mean “worship” but simply a “bowing down” out of respect for a king –WJWJ, I never said that proskyneo does not mean worship. Isn't it an established fact that it means “bowing down, doing obeisance OR worshipping.”Because of this we have to look at the context. Those who were…[Read more]

Quote 5) He is using an incorrect x6 variant; 6, 12, 16 ect.Ed, can you explain?Because I punched in “ed is lucifer” and it came up with 666.Coincidence? (See post above. It's not coincidence. it's manufactured and sifted and played with.)But back to my question: How did he do this wrong? (Because I'm sure I can find a way to do it right and…[Read more]

Quote Ed is lucifer=111 Receive a mark=111 Mark of beast=111 Witchcraft=111 Sorceries=111…[Read more]

It's crazy how far this goes:MARK OF BEAST = 666A SATANIC MARK = 666SATAN'S SEAL = 666NO MORE CASH = 666A NUMERIC CODE = 666FOREHEAD SIGN = 666BELIEVE IN MAN = 666 FAVOUR MAN = 666 FOLLOW MAN = 666OTHER GODS = 666 FALLING AWAY = 666 FALLEN CHURCH = 666 LAODICEA CHURCH = 666 MEGA CHURCHES = 666POPE LIARS = 666 CATHOLIC IDOL = 666 POPE'S DOGMA =…[Read more]

Quote “ed is lucifer” in English Gematria Equals: 666 I just checked this myself.2 Things: First, he is correct. And secondly, I now see the appeal of Gematria. It's fun.

Quote Hi David,1) What attack on you? Do you consider bringing the FACTS to light of your organization an attack on you?2) What you did is support slander and lies. You didn't hurt my feelings, I killed the ego long ago. Ed, clearly I did hurt your feelings or ego. I jumped in with what everyone else was saying about the number thing. A…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,02:51)Quote (david @ Nov. 03 2010,02:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 03 2010,04:35)Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2010,02:05)Quote AND IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”.If another person who knows better, misapplies this scripture again, my head is going to explode.DavidYou mean like…[Read more]

Quote MARK 15:19 (New King James Version)”Then they struck Him on the head with a reed and spat on Him; and bowing the knee, they WORSHIPED Him.”You can say that the word “mock” or “mocking” or “pretended” should be inserted into Mark 15:19, but for some reason, it is not found in the original. All that is found, is that it says they struck him…[Read more]

Quote To allAnother point is that worship is not simply a bowing down in respect of another but is also a form of “COMPLETE DEVOTION” to another. It is a condition of the heart.Exactly.worship is more than bowing down.But proskyneo can mean “bowing down” “doing obeisance” or “worshipping”Looking at your idea of “worship,” how should Mark be…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 05 2010,02:31)Quote (david @ Nov. 04 2010,01:24)In the NT, proskyneo DOES NOT always mean “worship.”Here is one example where it can't possibly mean “worship.”Proof:  Mark 15:19″Also, they would hit him on the head with a reed and spit upon him and, bending their knees, they would do obeisance to him.” (NWT)”They kept…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 03 2010,21:06)Quote (david @ Nov. 03 2010,19:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2010,14:44)Maybe there is something to it                                              Ed is lucifer=111                                        Receive a mark=111                                          Mark of beast=111                                …[Read more]

Is that you Bod? Nice to meet you.Bod, if you want to follow God, you have to submit to God. (If Muslim is a word for Submitter, then sure, we should be submitters, or muslims. But if God sent a son, then we should follow his son, and also be Christians, who submit to God.)As far as semantics, I've done the same thing where I've said that we…[Read more]