david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 26 2011,18:49)David, how do you interpret Romans 11:36?HI PAUL.Could you be mores specific? If you think that this scripture in some way conflicts with what I believe, then if you could point it out? I'm not sure what you are trying to get at?
david replied to the topic Smart scientists who believed in God. in the forum Creation & Science 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote Here are just a couple of quotes from Albert Einstein.It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
This is fun. ok, leaving now.
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
I really really really have to go, 10 minutes ago, but:Quote So how do you reconcile that with the scriptures that says clearly “God Alone” created all things?How do you reconcile your intelligence with the scripture that says: “God, alone wise”? I think because God is the ultimate source of wisdom and power and everything, he takes the credit.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
CONTINUING ON FROM MY SECOND LAST POST, I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED:”You seem to have created a false argument above. I am not saying that logic dictates it. I'm saying that logic allows it, as my illustration proves. “It is scripture that dictates it, when it continually says that it was created by God but “through” Jesus. Logic allows (not…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote How could you write these two statements and still claim otherwise.1. You stated it yourself that you have no idea how its done. 2. Than you give an example how a seller comes to an Agent as if you do know how its done?Dont PRETEND to know when you don't.–SimplySimply, see the last sentence in my last post.
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote Your real estate agent doesn't own anything, but Jesus owns it all and has dominion over it all. I'm pretty sure there is a scripture in the hebrew scriptures that says: “The earth belongs to Jehovah.” If the owner places his son over and in charge of his land, again, the owner of the land is different than the one that has been given the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Can I do that tomorrow? It's 2:00 AM. I must sleep. But, while waiting for my answer, perhaps you could answer the question above yours?
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote Yehsua was the actual executor of the creation event.–PaulPaul, in my illustration above, the real estate salesman was the executor of selling my house. Now, my question: In the paperwork, who do you think the “seller” is? Do you think it is the Realtor? Or do you think it is me?
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote BTW, don't miss this part of your own quote…”For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities–all things have been created through Him and for Him. (Col 1:16) –PaulMy house was sold 'by' the real estate agent and “through” the real estate…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote Its like are you FLIPPEN kidding me? are you saying SOMEONE other than God created?Wait, are you flippen kidding me? Are you saying someone other than myself (the seller) sold my house?Yay! The Real estate agent sold my house. Yay! I sold my house. Which is it? I'm officially and legally the “seller.” The documentation proves it.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote God created through Jesus,Tell me how?Quote Ok How so?How did GOD do that?Did he Whisper into Jesus ears and than Jesus spoke and BAM the BIG BANG? or what? How would I know? All I know is that Jehovah is the Creator and he created “through” Jesus. I no more know the details of “how” he did this than I know how the real estate agent sold…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 9 months ago
What do people think the word “through” means?I didn't sell my house myself but I sold it “through” my real estate agent. He did the work, but make no mistake, all the paperwork says I am the legal “seller.”Despite him doing the work, it was my idea, my purpose. He carried it out using my funds. Despite the fact that you can say he sold the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote This is the one question JW's don't know nor never thought of. I believe this is the Ace if anyone wants to challenge JW's.I absolutely assure you, this is not “the” ace. Perhaps you could point out why you think this is “the” ace for challenging JW's. One thing we are told when we don't know the answer to something is, we just have to…[Read more]
david replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
If you aren't baptized, you can't “dissociate” yourself, which is essentially disfellowshipping yourself. Why does the Proclaimers book stumble you? Is it the things they left out?Quote (all translations are biased btw including the NWT) etc. I could get baptized as a JW right nowSay to them: 'The NWT is biased and I'd like to be baptized.'…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 23 2011,09:16)Quote (david @ May 23 2011,03:04)Quote We just know that the bible gives credit about creation in the NT to Christ. Which scripture?Are you talking about the “through” scriptures?All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being” (Joh 1:3)”He was in…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote We just know that the bible gives credit about creation in the NT to Christ. Which scripture?Are you talking about the “through” scriptures?All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being” (Joh 1:3)”He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
I don't know why I originally asked that of you paul. Moving on:“All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being” (Joh 1:3)”He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.” (Joh 1:10)”For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
The angels were created long before man’s appearance, for at the ‘founding of the earth’ “the morning stars joyfully cried out together, and all the sons of God began shouting in applause.”—Job 38:4-7.
david replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,19:44)Quote (david @ May 21 2011,16:51)I have a question for you Paul. When were the angels created?Scripture does not expressly declare it, but my assumption is at the commencement of the creation week. Since they are the “hosts of heaven” (Luke 2:13) they must have been brought into existence with or following the…[Read more]
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