david replied to the topic The gift of tongues in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The gift of tongues in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ July 07 2011,07:27)allare the gift of tongues still here today??PierreIf they are, that would be a miracle. 🙂
david replied to the topic What is jesus? in the forum View Points 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote WHAT IS JESUS IF HE IS NOT GOD AND NOT A MAN?–SimplyWhat is an angel if he is not God and not man?The head of every MAN is JESUS. The head of JESUS is GOD.–1 COR.So, Biblically, we seem to have: man, and above man, Jesus and above Jesus, God.So, why would you ever only believe that Jesus had to be God OR man? Does not 1 Cor put Jesus as…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (david @ June 28 2011,17:34)“There is actually to us one God the Father,” and “there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.Despite being told there is 'one lord' we know that both God and Jesus are referred tp as Lord, as are many others in the Bible, to whom the word applies.  Can both be Lords?Can both be saviors?We…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Good question EdAnd if jesus raised himself from the dead, was he really truly dead? No, God raised Jesus to life.
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
“There is actually to us one God the Father,” and “there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 8:5, 6.Despite being told there is 'one lord' we know that both God and Jesus are referred tp as Lord, as are many others in the Bible, to whom the word applies. Can both be Lords?Can both be saviors?Well, the Bible says there is only one lord. (I…[Read more]
david replied to the topic NWT's psalms 51:14 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Were you in the bloods?
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2011,14:54)David,Gen 18 mentions Jehovah many times.  They are all referring to one of the three that appeared walking towards Abraham and eating with him, etc.  That Jehovah is the Son and not the Father.We are told that 3 “men” visited Abraham.“At this point the men turned from there and got on their way to Sodom; but…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
t8, that gun makes me….nervous. Why don't you just put it down. Lower the gun….slowly. That's it. Put it on the ground. Now back away. Slowly.
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote No scripture says that Jesus is the Father, as in His Father but Jesus is the one who gives eternal life and in that sense is a Father. So you say that “no scripture says that Jesus is the Father.” (We agree that no scripture says he is “the” Father, as in “the” heavenly father who is repeatedly called the Father, yet there is Is 9:6, where…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi David,Going on and on about Jehovah is certainly not my point but that you talk about Jehovah as if the name is always referring to the Father.LU, can you give a few examples where the Bible uses God's name where it does not refer to the Father.How many scriptures in the OT say that YHWH is the Father? Many.How many scriptures say Jesus…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote you go on and on about Jehovah this and Jehovah that but you don't seem to realize that the Son has the name Jehovah as well as the Father. If this is true LU, then how do you know when I say “Jehovah” I am not speaking of “Jesus”? Further, if the Son has the name “Jehovah” as you say, then it seems you also “go on about Jehovah this and…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
I think we might be getting confused and forgetting that “savior” is a word with meaning, not just a title.A savior is one who preserves or delivers from danger or destruction. Jehovah is identified as the principal Savior, the only Source of deliverance. (Isa 43:11; 45:21) He was the Savior and Deliverer of Israel, time and again. (Ps 106:8,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
In this place we find two nouns connected by καί (kai, “and”), the first noun being preceded by the definite article τοῦ (tou, “of the”) and the second noun without the definite article. A similar construction is found in 2Pe 1:1, 2, where, in vs 2, a clear distinction is made between God and Jesus. This indicates that when two distinct persons…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
“Of the Great God and of Savior of Us, Christ Jesus”–Titus 2:13,14Tit 2:13—Gr., τοῦ μεγάλου θεοῦ καὶ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Χριστοῦ ᾿Ιησοῦ(tou me‧ga′lou The‧ou′ kai so‧te′ros he‧mon′ Khri‧stou′ I‧e‧sou′)Almost all “Christians” are trinitarians. Almost all Bible translators are trinitarians. Therefore, almost all Bibles are translated with a slight bias…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote David,But if you call someone your savior who saves you from your sins and one who also gives you eternal life, then they would be your God. hi LU,I was going to say the exact same thing as T8. This is your assumption, your definition. Your ideas. I don't remember reading any definition of “God” in the Bible that said “Savior=God.”If The…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2011,04:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,11:26)Hi Pierre,The “THEY” refers to those who looked upon Jesus, not to the “HIM” who actually did the piercing.Mikeif that is so then the ME is not Christ but God,Christ was the prophet of God and the anointed one and by looking upon him ,dead, they have looked at God not be…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Without God, there is no saviour. There is no anything. He is the ultimate everything, including saviour. How did he save us?THROUGH…THROUGH,………THROUGH Jesus.So, this obviously makes Jesus also our saviour, for if it wasn't for his actions, we would not be saved.Just calling someone “saviour” does not make them God. Otherwise, there…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Repeatedly the Scriptures refer to God as Savior. At Isaiah 43:11 God even says: “Besides me there is no savior.” Since Jesus is also referred to as Savior, are God and Jesus the same? Not at all. Titus 1:3, 4 speaks of “God our Savior,” and then of both “God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.” So, both are saviors. Jude 25 shows the relation…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2011,14:54)Mike  or Davidwhy is it says THEY and not HE  because it was only one man who pierce Christ, Right?PierreHi pierre,I really don't quite understand what you are trying to ask.Could you explain.
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