FTK, I am wondering what your thoughts are on the scriptures i provided in response to your post.

Hi Gene.The kingdom is a theme that runs through the Bible, as is the seed, who would become king of that kingdom.It's called many things: God's kingdom, Jesus' kingdom, heavenly kingdom, etc.Yes, there is that scripture that says he will hand over the kingdom to his father. But the word “kingdom” means empire, government, etc. That is what the…[Read more]

Question1: No.Qestion2: We are repeatedly told that Christ will be king. What is the need for Jesus (and his “joint heirs” or co rulers) to rule? Part B: Nope. No more uprisings. We've already tried independant rule. It seems anyone uprising would be squashed like a bug. The experiment in independant rule has been seen by all to be a…[Read more]

“For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”Ed, looking at that verse, even if you were to understand it that way, it would be saying that your heart IS IN heaven (and not the kingdom)But the argument is that the kingdom IS IN your heart.So, heart in kingdom (even thought it says heaven) does not equal kingdom in heart.A person…[Read more]

Quote For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.I see no conflict here. Ed, what do you think is meant by heart? How do you understand this scripture?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2011,10:37)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2011,02:25)Hi David,What does your organization teach will become of those who are not part of “the little flock” nor of “the great crowd”,though they also believe in Jehovah and Jesus' ransom sacrifice?David, answer this question about what your organization teaches?God bless  Ed…[Read more]

Quote The number of 144 thousand seems a bit lean with all the ones that inhabit the earth today. Hi Princess.REVELATION 5:9,10: “You were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you made THEM to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over t…[Read more]

Quote God is no respecter of persons! There are no “chosen” persons and no “physical government” of God!FTK, I understand why you hold this position and have talked at length on this issue before. There may even be a thread for it.I believe the idea that the kingdom (a word that means “government, empire” etc) is within people does not line up…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Aug. 11 2011,12:42)David, Perhaps I misunderstood your post, I took your comments that the JWs are the chosen to help rule the kingdom. Any correction would be greatly appreciated. I do not think there is such a feature that one can block anothers post. However the comment was amusing.  Princess, JW's believe that over the…[Read more]

T8, am I allowed to block people so that I can not see their posts?

Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,20:15)Hi wispring.I also heard it was a JW doctrine.Istari and I think Irene also believe this.I started this topic, before I heard what they said (they HAD said it before, but I wasnt really listening).So, now that I agree with them, I lost interest in this thread As it goes.So I leave it open to anyone to discuss…[Read more]

Arcturus seems so big compared to the sun. But check out Antares compared to Arcturus. Stars like Antares makes Arcturus seem like a dwarf. http://www.giantstars.de/

Quote (Lightenup @ July 14 2011,15:48)Mike,It is clear who we are to worship…the Lord our God who is the God of gods (the Father) and the Lord of lords (the Son).Luke 10:25And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read…[Read more]

Quote  We are told by Jesus that the Father and Him are ONE–lighten upThis argument makes me so very angry. I do understand why it is misused. But I have to feel that everyone who uses it feels bad about themselves for doing so. (later, Jesus says that he and his disciples are “one” Just As he and the father are one. So unless you are…[Read more]

Quote Jehovah our God is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords!  We are to worship Jehovah our God…when we do in truth, we understand that there are two that are one as Jehovah our God.  The Father and the Son…the God of gods (the Father) AND the Lord of lords (the Son).–lighten upI thought there were 3? Why do we so often forget the t…[Read more]

Quote Jesus said so…..The Kingdom does not come with “observation” or you won't see the kingdom with your physical eyes. You will see the Kingdom throught spiritual eyes of understanding–ftkOnly Jesus' followers watched or noticed him leave. The Bible says he will return in the same manner. And his presence would be easily discernible by…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 10 2011,11:26)Quote (david @ July 08 2011,18:05)Quote Pierre,If it were as you say, it would be called the gift of ears, not tonguesI agree.  And to make this fit, you have to say that the speaking in tongues of 1 cor 14:27,28 is some sort of completely different thing than acts 2.  Yet, both are referring to speaking in a t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2011,09:33)Quote (david @ July 10 2011,16:28)Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2011,09:27)Quote (david @ July 10 2011,16:17)“The Hebrew word נפש (nephesh) is important for the Old Testament (and biblical) doctrine of man. The term appears over 750 times in the OT and is translated in the Authorized Version most frequently as…[Read more]

Perhaps you should quote the actual scripture and explain how it must be understood your way.

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2011,09:29)Quote (david @ July 10 2011,16:27)Pierre, just to be clear, this is what I am arguing against:Quote geneis the soul not the spirit of men ?yes it is–Pierre.I do not believe the soul and spirit are the same at all, in any way.Davidok explain what you believe thenPierreWell, we've already been over what soul…[Read more]