I told you both views are correct, the part that is wrong, is calling the other persons view wrong.–Ed.So, you are going to stop calling other peoples views wrong?If that is “judging” others, then does that mean you are done commenting on this forum?And I know you told me that both views (trinitarianism/non-trinitarinism) are correct.If both…[Read more]

Quote FINALLY! Something that you should have said to me from the start – instead of attacking meIf asking a simple question is attacking, then Jesus attacked a lot of people.Quote Listen carefully, David: I don't want to discuss 1914.I believe I conveyed the same thought. I just wanted to know what you thought about it, in a one word…[Read more]

I found this thread to be very interesting.

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,09:06)Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,08:31)If you want a paradox, try this:(1)The next statement is true.(2)The previous statement is false.We see how this is a paradox.  Hi David, excellent!Since both statements are equally true, you “should” be able to see my point then.Perhaps WE will bring this dichotomy to light!God…[Read more]

(That previous post was a joke, but it is the kind of simple response that annoys me and doesn't help or really mean anything.)

Simple is as simple does.

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,09:45)Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,08:26)Does the Bible ever say: “the holy spirit is my God,” or “holy spirit the God” or “the holy spirit my God”?Hi David,Heb 12:5-9 My son, despise not thou the chastening of the LORD, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the LORD loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth e…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,09:48)Hi David, I guess I'll have to wait until you go get more watchtower propaganda materials to post; aye? God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, I'm starting to think less of you in more than one way.I have mentioned specifically to you today in a PM that I haven't been posting watchtower…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,09:35)Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,08:26)DOES THE BIBLE TEACH OR SAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD?Hi David,Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HolySpirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,13:29)In response to some frustration out there about a member who posts with one liners, I decided to create this group discussion, to see if a conversation can work with one or 2 lines and only using scripture.I will start with a scripture in the next post and remember replies must be brief and only scripture. It doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,09:25)Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,09:07)You would perhaps get a more accurate understanding there anyway.  I mean, how can you even trust me to convey what they believe?  I play mind games, remember? BobHi David,Who said anything about “mind games”?Do you consider an avoidance of speaking THE TRUTH to be “mind g…[Read more]

Quote What seems quite odd to me, David, is that I have spent a lot of my time defending YOUR religion from prejudicial people here over the last three years or so – yet you seem like it makes good sense to try and stab ME in the back, instead of supporting me.–MikeMike, you are doing some nasty psychological things here. Anyway, do you not…[Read more]

Quote Pierre made a claim that the JWs think Jesus' second coming was in 1914. That is not what the JWs think – as you should know. Mike, I think that's sort of a technicality (parousia: coming/presence). I don't think that is what he was really the point being made because he also asked: “Did Christ start to rule in heaven in 1914…[Read more]

It also seems illogical to me to make someone prove to you, something that you yourself already believe.All this makes me think you probably do believe 1914 is an accurate belief of JW's.Correct me if I am wrong. (I don't want to start a discussion on this, I just want to know.)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2012,09:30)Quote (david @ Feb. 11 2012,11:35)Mike, it's hard to argue with someone when you don't know what they believe.  :-)What do you believe?1914, Christ returned:1. True,2. Not true,3. Don't knowDavid,Pierre made a claim that the JWs think Jesus' second coming was in 1914.  That is not what the JWs think – as y…[Read more]

Quote I don't know, Pierre. Do YOU think he did? If not, then perhaps you should research into why the JWs believe it, and if they are wrong, PROVE it scripturally. –MikeQuote One question at a time. PROVE to me that the JWs are going AGAINST SCRIPTURE about 1914 first. –Mike.

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,08:28)Hi David,Eph 5:6-13 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit…[Read more]

Quote Your fight is not against your Christian brothers; this is NOT wise!My fight really truly only is with what I perceive to be the inconsistency of your argument. (not the argument of this thread)You are absolutely right:“if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.” Well, this house (this forum) is divided by countless…[Read more]

Trinitarian view: The non trinitarians are wrong.Non-Trinitarian view: The trinitarians are wrong.These are two diametrically opposed statements.If you want a paradox, try this:The next statement is true.The previous statement is false.We see how this is a paradox. Or there is the one in the bible where one of their own (a creten) says: “All…[Read more]

Quote 1) Yes. (see Lev.11:45 and John 4:24)Ed, we of course agree that God is “holy” as Lev says and we agree that he is a spirit, as John 4:24 says. This does not mean that he is the “holy spirit.”DOES THE BIBLE TEACH OR SAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD?How many times does the Bible “tell”us that Jehovah is God? Expressions we find in the Bib…[Read more]